Pitching Coach Hot Board- Version 1.0

[confucius say]

Oh it's a moot point. We're not getting him. We probably aren't getting the guy at Wake either. I'd go after the guy at UCONN and then fall back to Ostrander.

What about the guy at Virginia, realistic?

[somebodyshotmypaw]

My first interview question would be this:

Me: "Do you know what that white thing is laying on the ground in front of the catcher?"

Applicant: "I think it is home plate"

Me: "Exactly. Are you aware that our pitchers have to throw pitches over it?"

Applicant: "Yes. Otherwise it could result in a walk"

Me: "Great, we are already making progress in this interview"

[StarkVegasSteve]

What about the guy at Virginia, realistic?

It probably is realistic just don't know how and if he would be ahead of Ostrander.

[KOdawg1]

Chris Young is an interesting name.

Bullpen coach for the Cubs, former pitching coach for the Phillies, MLB scout for the Padres and Astros, and then he of course pitched for us back in the day. I think I'd rather us stick with a proven college guy, but I wouldn't be opposed to Young

[schddog72]

Time to fire it up!!!

1. Corey Muscara (Wake Forest)- I think this is the guy everyone has circled for the better part of a month. He would be an incredible hire. Has worked wonders at Wake since he's been there and was very good at Maryland and St Johns before that.

2. Josh McDonald (UCONN)- Has been with Jim Penders at UCONN a very long time but is regarded as one of the best pitching coaches in all of baseball. Coached AA's in 6 of the last 7 seasons.

3. Brady Kirkpatrick (Duke)- First year at Duke and has lowered the team ERA from 5.89 to 3.60. Was at FAU before that and they pitched it well last year.

4. Nate Yeskie (A&M)- It will probably take a big time offer to get him but if you could get him he's the grand slam hire. He's probably not as realistic as the first 3 but outside of Wes he is probably the best pitching coach in college baseball.

5. Drew Dickinson (UVA)- Has been with UVA for 4 years and the last 3 years his staff has a 3.67 team ERA. We saw up close and personal how effective his pitchers were in 21 and if it wasn't for just a special group of seniors we lose that game.

6. Christian Ostrander (USM)- A lot of people wanted to go get him last year. Has always had a great starting rotation at USM and would be able to recruit even higher quality guys here. He's going to be tough to pull though because a lot down in Hattiesburg seem to think he's content to wait on Berry to retire.

I know I left off plenty of names, but this was just my initial list. Add whoever you want and I'll add them to the list.

Getting anybody on this list or your next dozen is pure fantasy. Doesn't ANYBODY remember how we ended up with Lemo? What was he - 5th, 6th, 8th choice? Most any name worth considering is going to still be coaching when the regionals begin.

[sandjunky]

Fire everyone and go hire Wes Johnson as HC

[StarkVegasSteve]

Getting anybody on this list or your next dozen is pure fantasy. Doesn't ANYBODY remember how we ended up with Lemo? What was he - 5th, 6th, 8th choice? Most any name worth considering is going to still be coaching when the regionals begin.

You are right. All names are pure fantasy. How about lets just go get Oak Hill Academys pitching coach. Maybe we can pull him

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

So before 2022, foxhall's previous 7 seasons were really really good. Look to be better than Yeskie's statistically.

People pick a conclusion and argue backwards.

This board will tell you we should have fired Fox last year. That he should have been gone afterb1 terrible year right after winning a NC and national assistant of the year

But when another pitching coach has a terrible year, he should actually be our top target because it's a fluke? What? It's not consistent at all

[Leroy Jenkins]

Getting anybody on this list or your next dozen is pure fantasy. Doesn't ANYBODY remember how we ended up with Lemo? What was he - 5th, 6th, 8th choice? Most any name worth considering is going to still be coaching when the regionals begin.

Coenz.

[Homedawg]

Fire everyone and go hire Wes Johnson as HC

I'll pass

[KB21]

Have to hire someone that knows how to take what is learned in the pitching lab and translate that to on the field success. We should have a first round pick pitcher every year.

[Pancho]

Fire everyone and go hire Wes Johnson as HC

sounds like a plan

[Coach34]

You can eliminate the WF and Va guys immediately. A PC at a good school is not coming here with Lemonizik's job on the line.

You are going to have to hire a good one from a UConn or mid-level school that will get a significant raise to make it worth it for them.

[Coach34]

Fire everyone and go hire Wes Johnson as HC

Wes Johnson is not a HC type guy

[Ari Gold]

Step one in getting a solid pitching coach
Fire Lemoins and hire a big time HC
Step 2 ... see step 1

[SpaceBully]

Time to fire it up!!!

1. Corey Muscara (Wake Forest)- I think this is the guy everyone has circled for the better part of a month. He would be an incredible hire. Has worked wonders at Wake since he's been there and was very good at Maryland and St Johns before that.

2. Josh McDonald (UCONN)- Has been with Jim Penders at UCONN a very long time but is regarded as one of the best pitching coaches in all of baseball. Coached AA's in 6 of the last 7 seasons.

3. Brady Kirkpatrick (Duke)- First year at Duke and has lowered the team ERA from 5.89 to 3.60. Was at FAU before that and they pitched it well last year.

4. Nate Yeskie (A&M)- It will probably take a big time offer to get him but if you could get him he's the grand slam hire. He's probably not as realistic as the first 3 but outside of Wes he is probably the best pitching coach in college baseball.

5. Drew Dickinson (UVA)- Has been with UVA for 4 years and the last 3 years his staff has a 3.67 team ERA. We saw up close and personal how effective his pitchers were in 21 and if it wasn't for just a special group of seniors we lose that game.

6. Christian Ostrander (USM)- A lot of people wanted to go get him last year. Has always had a great starting rotation at USM and would be able to recruit even higher quality guys here. He's going to be tough to pull though because a lot down in Hattiesburg seem to think he's content to wait on Berry to retire.

I know I left off plenty of names, but this was just my initial list. Add whoever you want and I'll add them to the list.

The thing is in my mind is that FoxHall was as highly thought of as a pitching coach as anyone on this list and maybe more so when we hired him. So what happened after the CWS Championship and him being named the National Assistant College Baseball Coach of the Year? I'm not saying he shouldn't be let go, but what the hell happened? Yes, we had a rash of injuries that caught us off guard and our quality of pitching depth could not overcome it. Somewhat the same this year. And we cannot throw enough strikes. We have some young talented pitchers who just weren't ready for SEC baseball. And I watched Gartman throw a great game only to go 0-2 against one of UT's best hitters, then throw a fat fastball right down the middle....why? Of course the pitch ended up in one of the outfield parking lots. And we can't compete with the top level portal talent due to lack of NIL funds (is that Foxhall's fault?)....don't know, but it needs to be answered. (see Skenes). And it will be the same this year if we come across a top notch hurler like Skenes. So, if we hire the best name on this list......will it solve the problem? I wonder. BTW.....what are Cheese's responsibilities besides coaching 3rd base?

[KB21]

For one, there is no truth to the rumor that we lost Skenes due to NIL. We lost him because he wanted to be coached by Wes Johnson instead of Scott Foxhall.

Also, don?t listen to anyone that tries to say Lemonis will not be able to bring in a top pitching coach. Mississippi State is a premier program. We have arm talent on the roster that needs to be developed and arm talent that is coming in. Lemonis will also be hands off when it comes to the pitching coach. Whoever it is will be able to implement his philosophy and 100%. Plus, Mississippi State will pay a top salary in baseball.

[sandjunky]

Wes Johnson is not a HC type guy

I get that based on personality

I?d back the brinks truck up to Heefner for HC in a heartbeat if it could pry him and his 3 boys to Vegas

[Pancho]

I don't care what "type" guy a HC is as long as he understands the SEC is a meat grinder. Foxhalls one size fits all approach to pitching bit him and Lemons on the ass and if Lemons stays, we'll all be bitten on the ass and having the same conversation next year and the year after that. wipe the slate clean and give everyone involved the idea that MSU is serious about baseball again.

[StarkVegasSteve]

The thing is in my mind is that FoxHall was as highly thought of as a pitching coach as anyone on this list and maybe more so when we hired him. So what happened after the CWS Championship and him being named the National Assistant College Baseball Coach of the Year? I'm not saying he shouldn't be let go, but what the hell happened? Yes, we had a rash of injuries that caught us off guard and our quality of pitching depth could not overcome it. Somewhat the same this year. And we cannot throw enough strikes. We have some young talented pitchers who just weren't ready for SEC baseball. And I watched Gartman throw a great game only to go 0-2 against one of UT's best hitters, then throw a fat fastball right down the middle....why? Of course the pitch ended up in one of the outfield parking lots. And we can't compete with the top level portal talent due to lack of NIL funds (is that Foxhall's fault?)....don't know, but it needs to be answered. (see Skenes). And it will be the same this year if we come across a top notch hurler like Skenes. So, if we hire the best name on this list......will it solve the problem? I wonder. BTW.....what are Cheese's responsibilities besides coaching 3rd base?

Well I think first of all I think Foxhall had a crop of pitchers when he got here and ones that were committed that would make any coaches job easier. Small, Ginn, Self, Gordon, Plumlee, etc. Add on to that he then has Bednar, Sims, Harding, McCleod, etc waiting in the wings. He did not have to evaluate a one of them and just had to not screw them up. Since then he has had to evaluate and develop players and I do not think that is his forte at the highest level like we play at.

On Kyle, he is the catchers coach.