Arkansas is out recruiting MSU in our own state!

[Coach34]

There it is. The Leach haters will always blame him and fabricate things in an attempt to make Mike look bad.

And the Leach lovers will defend him in spite of the truth. So here we are

[TorpedoIPA]

And the Leach lovers will defend him in spite of the truth. So here we are

I believe Leach and his system gave MSU a chance with his unconventional approach and an offense that could rely on less than all star players. The Leach experiment was starting to work as we saw with 9 games won in 2022. At Texas Tech and Washington State it took 3 or 4 years to get it really going. Some of you are too impatient.

But anyway, good luck trying to slug it out in the trenches with Alabama, Georgia and even Texas A&M with 3 star players.

[msu15]

I believe Leach and his system gave MSU a chance with his unconventional approach and an offense that could rely on less than all star players. The Leach experiment was starting to work as we saw with 9 games won in 2022. At Texas Tech and Washington State it took 3 or 4 years to get it really going. Some of you are too impatient.

But anyway, good luck trying to slug it out in the trenches with Alabama, Georgia and even Texas A&M with 3 star players.

That has zero to do with the original point that was made about Leach not caring about NIL.

[Jarius]

I believe Leach and his system gave MSU a chance with his unconventional approach and an offense that could rely on less than all star players. The Leach experiment was starting to work as we saw with 9 games won in 2022. At Texas Tech and Washington State it took 3 or 4 years to get it really going. Some of you are too impatient.

But anyway, good luck trying to slug it out in the trenches with Alabama, Georgia and even Texas A&M with 3 star players.

Leach was winning with defense here. His offense was getting worse, not better.

[SpaceBully]

Us and Ole Miss could also merge. That'd help tremendously.

That has already been tried and it failed miserably.

"Between 1900 and 1930, the Mississippi Legislature introduced bills aiming to relocate, close, or merge the university with Mississippi State University. All such legislation failed. In 1928, then-Gov. Theodore Bilbo proposed to move Ole Miss and Mississippi State universities to 100 acres once occupied by the state insane asylum in Jackson. However, this proposal was not implemented. So, there has been no merger between Ole Miss and Mississippi State University."

[Todd4State]

That has already been tried and it failed miserably.

"Between 1900 and 1930, the Mississippi Legislature introduced bills aiming to relocate, close, or merge the university with Mississippi State University. All such legislation failed. In 1928, then-Gov. Theodore Bilbo proposed to move Ole Miss and Mississippi State universities to 100 acres once occupied by the state insane asylum in Jackson. However, this proposal was not implemented. So, there has been no merger between Ole Miss and Mississippi State University."

That's interesting. That's where UMC is now.

[gtowndawg]

That has already been tried and it failed miserably.

"Between 1900 and 1930, the Mississippi Legislature introduced bills aiming to relocate, close, or merge the university with Mississippi State University. All such legislation failed. In 1928, then-Gov. Theodore Bilbo proposed to move Ole Miss and Mississippi State universities to 100 acres once occupied by the state insane asylum in Jackson. However, this proposal was not implemented. So, there has been no merger between Ole Miss and Mississippi State University."

Dang, I didn't realize it was actually discussed at some point.

[CaptainObvious]

That's interesting. That's where UMC is now.

And where Ole Miss money resides.

[SpaceWranglerDawg]

And where Ole Miss money resides.

A lot of it anyway. My father used to donate to UMMC, until we got towed in oxford at an egg bowl when I was probably 8. Never gave them another dollar. First memory of hearing profanity him.

[Really Clark?]

I believe Leach and his system gave MSU a chance with his unconventional approach and an offense that could rely on less than all star players. The Leach experiment was starting to work as we saw with 9 games won in 2022. At Texas Tech and Washington State it took 3 or 4 years to get it really going. Some of you are too impatient.

But anyway, good luck trying to slug it out in the trenches with Alabama, Georgia and even Texas A&M with 3 star players.

What has any of that have to do with NIL and recruiting?

[TorpedoIPA]

What has any of that have to do with NIL and recruiting?

In the NIL Era, where MSU is at a distinct disadvantage, it seems to me that we should look for an unconventional approach, like Leach advocated, that may help us compete.

Of course I am as interested as anyone in seeing how it works out.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

The ballon will burst at some point. Yes it will appear a few get ahead but it will not last. The economy will not support every team doing it on a large scale. Who knows how it will fall out for conferences.

This will correct, it is coming. Look how the pay the hot coach all the money has worked out. Hasn't got TX, Neb or ND or whoever back to the top has it.

You mention economy like this is a business thing bound by profit and math. It isn't.

NIL and college athletics are about rich people trying to gain bragging rights over their rich buddies. It's a hobby to them, a luxury for their own entertainment. It has nothing to do with getting their NIL contributions back via marketing from the players. It's about winning games. It's about bragging to friends "you see that DT that made the game saving stuff at the goaline? He's only here because I paid for him" and feeling like they are important.

Basically, this will only stop getting worse if the boosters at A&M, UGA, LSU etc decide they'd rather loose than pay more. It will only "correct" -as you say- if they decide they've been paying too much already and lower their NIL contributions.

We are priced out of the market. Always have been honestly- its not like we were winning many recruiting battles for 5 star kids as it was, and the results on the field proved we were out of any NC potential because of it. NIL just allows boosters to use their money more effectively and thus puts even more teams over us in the pecking order. But we were never truly in the same league as Bama or Clemson or OSU due to the NCAA not enforcing rules

[KB21]

I believe Leach and his system gave MSU a chance with his unconventional approach and an offense that could rely on less than all star players. The Leach experiment was starting to work as we saw with 9 games won in 2022. At Texas Tech and Washington State it took 3 or 4 years to get it really going. Some of you are too impatient.

But anyway, good luck trying to slug it out in the trenches with Alabama, Georgia and even Texas A&M with 3 star players.

Unfortunately, they decided to go with an offensive style that requires elite talent or a significant talent advantage to be successful. So, they will have to pick up the recruiting.

[Maroonthirteen]

State and OM will never merge. OM will try to bury State before that happens. Anyways...

Our best chance is for Alabama, Oh St etc to question why they are sharing TV revenue with a conference. They form their own tv contracts and go out on their own, or their own league. That will leave the rest of us to stay around and hopefully then the ncaa has the politic clout to go back to amateurism.

Because let's be real, the real market value for 90% of these players is what boosters will play for their flesh/service. Like a prostitute. They aren't getting Bryce Young deals and 100% of them are not out of high school. So, let the "Blue bloods" have their recruiting bidding wars to set their tv stage. I'll be happy on the moral lower stage.

[Maroonthirteen]

Btw, we will see if OM has deep pockets this recruiting cycle. The Lake Commorant DL likes them but he is getting a lot of "love" from UT, Bama, UGA and others.

[Pancho]

Btw, we will see if OM has deep pockets this recruiting cycle. The Lake Commorant DL likes them but he is getting a lot of "love" from UT, Bama, UGA and others.

He's a 3 years and straight to the NFL guy and will go to the highest bidder. a really high bidder

[SpaceWranglerDawg]

He's a 3 years and straight to the NFL guy and will go to the highest bidder. a really high bidder

OM has a tendency to take those "sure things" and run them into the ground occasionally...

[KB21]

Justin Brown in the portal.

[Ari Gold]

The 4th highest paid person in the Arkansas football staff / roster is KJ Jefferson
Says all you need to know

And it?s May 1 , the best thing for everyone to do is not worry About high school recruiting until about a week before signing day ...

[DownwardDawg]

The 4th highest paid person in the Arkansas football staff / roster is KJ Jefferson
Says all you need to know

And it?s May 1 , the best thing for everyone to do is not worry About high school recruiting until about a week before signing day ...

This