Baseball Coaching Hot Board

[StarkVegasSteve]

Who are the big boosters for the program that aren't former players?

Adkerson is pretty big. The Bryans. Mossy Oak is pretty involved in baseball. Steven Warren. No former players really outside of Maholm, Raffy, and Craig Tatum

[HoopsDawg]

If you can get Heefner, and that's a big IF, you do it. Absolute no brainer.

[sandjunky]

Maybe extreme toughness can?t be taught, but being tougher in general can 100% be taught. The level that gets to is up to the individual. One main way is overcoming some adversity, not quitting when things get hard. Best to learn at a young age, but can be improved on through life.

Cohen definitely instilled that.

I think each individual is capable of being as tough as anyone- it?s their minds that let them down

Ask David Goggins

[R2Dawg]

Toughness can absolutely be brought out in certain kids. Now some kids don't need to have it brought out, they are just like that 24/7. But not all.

You can take the same group of kids and change leadership and see a difference in toughness. That's because toughness is largely mental. It happens every year. Heck, look at Jans vs Howland. Same kids.

See it everyday at work. Leadership matters much more than people realize. I saw it also with different coaches I had back when playing ball as well. It matters and a lot. Look at Croom then Mullen, Moorhead then Leach, Howland and Jans.

[Tbonewannabe]

If Lemonis makes it to Hoover he'll be back. Albeit with massive staff changes, but he'll be back. That won't be popular but it's the reality of it. Now, if he tanks and we finish 9-21 or worse I don't believe there's a way he can stay. The big baseball boosters will force that change.

The way this team is playing, I would be pleasantly surprised to win 9 games in the SEC. We just played who I would have thought was the worst team we would play in the SEC.

[Ezsoil]

IF this team continues down the same path, it'll be time to make a move. IF that happens, who would you like to see us target?

Vitello won't happen and neither will McDonnell. So now that we've gotten those two out of the way.

-Cliff Godwin; makes $500K at ECU, so financially we could get him away. He regularly makes super regionals at a place that shouldn't be going to super regionals. He's one of my top guys.

-Butch Thompson; 4 years ago, this would've been laughable, but he's been to 2 CWS.

-Lane Burroughs; state guy. I think we can do better

-Tim Tadlock; highly unlikely but I'd give him a call

Who else?

What on earth makes any of you guys think ANY of these guys would consider MSU ....three on your list turned us down last time ..and the Schlossnagle interview didn't last 20 minutes .....throw in that MSU has the fewest NIL opportunities ...and it isn't the destination that a high profile coach will want to take a chance on.... .

[StarkVegasSteve]

What on earth makes any of you guys think ANY of these guys would consider MSU ....three on your list turned us down last time ..and the Schlossnagle interview didn't last 20 minutes .....throw in that MSU has the fewest NIL opportunities ...and it isn't the destination that a high profile coach will want to take a chance on.... .

Lane Burroughs would crawl on broken glass to Starkville and I imagine if we paid Butch what Auburn is paying him he would come. We'd probably have to overpay for Godwin and you can put Tadlock in the same category as Vitello. It won't happen.

[The Federalist Engineer]

An interview from 5-years ago, when Arkansas hired Nate Thompson. Replaced Vitello in pig world.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhYuS4Whfvg&t=11s

After Thompson speaks, you have Van Horn talking recruiting. Pretty interesting.

Thompson is a Dallas Baptist graduate. Arkansas has been to 3 CWS' and basically been a 45+ wins/season team. Still winning today, as Thompson's 8th and 9th grade commitments are rolling in.

[Homedawg]

Lane Burroughs would crawl on broken glass to Starkville and I imagine if we paid Butch what Auburn is paying him he would come. We'd probably have to overpay for Godwin and you can put Tadlock in the same category as Vitello. It won't happen.

I'm not saying butch wouldn't come. But he's a loyal guy. They gave his first shot. We've won a title already. Had we not that would matter cause he could bring us our first. But I'm not sure he's take it. Is it a better job? Yea. But I'm not sure he'd take it. Lane. Hell yeah he would. No doubt

[Homedawg]

An interview from 5-years ago, when Arkansas hired Nate Thompson. Replaced Vitello in pig world.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhYuS4Whfvg&t=11s

After Thompson speaks, you have Van Horn talking recruiting. Pretty interesting.

Thompson is a Dallas Baptist graduate. Arkansas has been to 3 CWS' and basically been a 45+ wins/season team. Still winning today, as Thompson's 8th and 9th grade commitments are rolling in.

Just heard van horn speak and he said they were going to stop taking so many hs commits and go way more portal. We shall see. Better have a deep nil pocket. And they probably do. But you can't get away from signees. They have more loyalty if they really wanted to be there to begin with. And clearly they can get em

[Todd4State]

Just heard van horn speak and he said they were going to stop taking so many hs commits and go way more portal. We shall see. Better have a deep nil pocket. And they probably do. But you can't get away from signees. They have more loyalty if they really wanted to be there to begin with. And clearly they can get em

I have a feeling that's going to end up being a mistake for them. But we'll see.

[The Federalist Engineer]

Just heard van horn speak and he said they were going to stop taking so many hs commits and go way more portal. We shall see. Better have a deep nil pocket. And they probably do. But you can't get away from signees. They have more loyalty if they really wanted to be there to begin with. And clearly they can get em

If LSU buys a National Title in 2023, Arkansas' FOMO will be uncontrollable. It's got to suck for all these schools around them winning titles. Even Oklahoma has 2 titles and a recent Runner Up. They are absolute Wannabes.

[Commercecomet24]

I have a feeling that's going to end up being a mistake for them. But we'll see.

I tend to agree. The portal is definitely a gamble. You can get real good real quick or you could blow your whole program up. Also, with nil what it is, if you buy portal guys and it costs you big bucks, those people putting up those big bucks will expect results NOW.

[StarkVegasSteve]

I have a feeling that's going to end up being a mistake for them. But we'll see.

Tyson, JB Hunt, Walmart, Jerry. I mean Arkansas can warchest an NIL fund that could rival Texas with just 4 families. They have plenty right now, but if they go all in everyone needs to be very afraid. They could be the Yankees if they wanted to. Thankfully, the care equally about all their sports so no sport will ever totally dominate with NIL.

[sandjunky]

I tend to agree. The portal is definitely a gamble. You can get real good real quick or you could blow your whole program up. Also, with nil what it is, if you buy portal guys and it costs you big bucks, those people putting up those big bucks will expect results NOW.

Bought or not, LSU fans expect to win and get results every year

Hell they ran off Laval after 5 years and he was 210-109-1 (88-60-1)

That?s a .658 Win Percentage overall and .594 in SEC play

Lemonis is .672 overall and .527

Laval only had one SEC season with under 18 wins in conference and it cost him his job (13)

His sin? Not winning the CWS and not Skip
2 CWS Appearances
1 super
1 regional

[StarkVegasSteve]

Bought or not, LSU fans expect to win and get results every year

Hell they ran off Laval after 5 years and he was 210-109-1 (88-60-1)

That?s a .658 Win Percentage overall and .594 in SEC play

Lemonis is .672 overall and .527

Laval only had one SEC season with under 18 wins in conference and it cost him his job (13)

His sin? Not winning the CWS and not Skip
2 CWS Appearances
1 super
1 regional

Smoke's biggest issue was his name wasn't Skip Bertman. It's almost impossible to follow a legend. I think both McMahon and Cohen did it so well for us because Polk had not won a national championship. Had Polk reeled off the two we should've won (85 and 89) then I think the expectations would've been raised for both those men. I also don't think Polk comes back in 02 if he had won a national championship.

[Commercecomet24]

Bought or not, LSU fans expect to win and get results every year

Hell they ran off Laval after 5 years and he was 210-109-1 (88-60-1)

That?s a .658 Win Percentage overall and .594 in SEC play

Lemonis is .672 overall and .527

Laval only had one SEC season with under 18 wins in conference and it cost him his job (13)

His sin? Not winning the CWS and not Skip
2 CWS Appearances
1 super
1 regional

Oh yeah, I 100% agree on this. I should've stated i was making more of reference toward arky and the fact van horn says they're going heavy portal.

[WPS]

Tyson, JB Hunt, Walmart, Jerry. I mean Arkansas can warchest an NIL fund that could rival Texas with just 4 families. They have plenty right now, but if they go all in everyone needs to be very afraid. They could be the Yankees if they wanted to. Thankfully, the care equally about all their sports so no sport will ever totally dominate with NIL.

Most of the Arkansas NIL is going toward basketball right now, mainly because the JB Hunt family are huge basketball fans and are putting money toward it. They're the only big player publicly out there supporting NIL though.

If you look at the roster this year, so far Arkansas' two best hitters are both transfers - Bohrofen from OU and Wegner from Creighton. the 3rd is probably Josenberger who is a Kansas transfer.

Peyton Stovall was a blue chip recruit who most thought was a can't-miss first round pick and possibly the best hitter in the entire draft, and while he's been good he's maybe the 4th best hitter on the team. I can see why DVH would prefer to go with proven transfers. Even the best high school recruits are sometimes a roll of the dice.

[PMDawg]

Well he has only had one. And that was more a daddy ball situation than Andy?s performance. I have told that story multiple times. The gist, Cann thought the program should be going one way and the daddies who wanted their sons to start thought it should be going another. Words were exchanged.

Don't leave out that his W/L record stunk too. That's kind of important. I mean, it wasn't like 10-90 or anything, but he was barely above .500.