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    IF this team continues down the same path, it'll be time to make a move. IF that happens, who would you like to see us target?

    Vitello won't happen and neither will McDonnell. So now that we've gotten those two out of the way.

    -Cliff Godwin; makes $500K at ECU, so financially we could get him away. He regularly makes super regionals at a place that shouldn't be going to super regionals. He's one of my top guys.

    -Butch Thompson; 4 years ago, this would've been laughable, but he's been to 2 CWS.

    -Lane Burroughs; state guy. I think we can do better

    -Tim Tadlock; highly unlikely but I'd give him a call

    Who else?

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    I?d throw the bank at Godwin. He?s done a tremendous job at ECU and recruits at a high level.

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    Selmon needs to start putting a list together NOW. This is unacceptable for MSU baseball. We have become the worst team in the SEC in less than 2 years removed from a NC. Completely unacceptable. There is no good reason, outside of coaching/recruiting (go hand in hand), that MSU baseball should be anywhere other than the top 15 in country year in and year out.

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    Godwin turned down the job at lsu...just thought that should be mentioned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by was21 View Post
    Godwin turned down the job at lsu...just thought that should be mentioned.
    I doubt that he was actually offered the job.

    He also "turned us down" back in 2018, but everyone with knowledge of situation said we never offered him the job either.

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    Selmon said won't have the benefit of a Rolodex of baseball coaches who he knows. Could just hire the Oklahoma assistant everyone raves about. Can't remember his name, but he runs their offense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by confucius say View Post
    Selmon said won't have the benefit of a Rolodex of baseball coaches who he knows. Could just hire the Oklahoma assistant everyone raves about. Can't remember his name, but he runs their offense.
    Hard pass on that guy. His offense wasn't very impressive in last years' CWSCS.

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    I would also give Brian O'Connor at UVA a call. He's been there forever, but the dude can coach and doesn't make that much

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    Quote Originally Posted by KOdawg1 View Post
    I would also give Brian O'Connor at UVA a call. He's been there forever, but the dude can coach and doesn't make that much
    He passed even taking to us last time. He missed ncaa tourney back to back 18-19. So he's not sustained being good either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KOdawg1 View Post
    IF this team continues down the same path, it'll be time to make a move. IF that happens, who would you like to see us target?

    Vitello won't happen and neither will McDonnell. So now that we've gotten those two out of the way.

    -Cliff Godwin; makes $500K at ECU, so financially we could get him away. He regularly makes super regionals at a place that shouldn't be going to super regionals. He's one of my top guys.

    -Butch Thompson; 4 years ago, this would've been laughable, but he's been to 2 CWS.

    -Lane Burroughs; state guy. I think we can do better

    -Tim Tadlock; highly unlikely but I'd give him a call

    Who else?
    Out of your list number one and 4 won't take it. Number 2 might. Might not. Lane would jump for sure. Even not making tourney, doubt lem gets fired this year. We shall see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Homedawg View Post
    Out of your list number one and 4 won't take it. Number 2 might. Might not. Lane would jump for sure. Even not making tourney, doubt lem gets fired this year. We shall see.
    I don't see it happening either but at the rate this team is losing SEC games who knows. You've got a guy like Selmon who's probably never had that much say so in these things before. So, is he the kinda guy that is trying to put his stamp on something and blaze new trails or is he someone who's going to be timid to make the hard decisions at this point in his young career. I fully understand there are more people involved but he's going to feel the pressure either way.
    "The QB and the receiver weren't on the same page there, but hey its only week eleven". (Jack Cristil)

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    Quote Originally Posted by confucius say View Post
    Selmon said won't have the benefit of a Rolodex of baseball coaches who he knows. Could just hire the Oklahoma assistant everyone raves about. Can't remember his name, but he runs their offense.
    Reggie Willits

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    Cannizzaro is available.....

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    I make an offer to Vitello to make him the highest paid coach in the country and make him say no.

    If he does say no go after Lane Burroughs and get Ostrander from USM and call it a day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    I make an offer to Vitello to make him the highest paid coach in the country and make him say no.

    If he does say no go after Lane Burroughs and get Ostrander from USM and call it a day.
    I think this would be our most likely outcome.

    I wouldn't hate it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    I make an offer to Vitello to make him the highest paid coach in the country and make him say no.

    If he does say no go after Lane Burroughs and get Ostrander from USM and call it a day.
    Gross. We can do better. Ostranded is great. If Lane Burroughs was Joe Schmoe and coached at Alabama instead of Statw, he wouldn?t be mentioned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoachT14 View Post
    Gross. We can do better. Ostranded is great. If Lane Burroughs was Joe Schmoe and coached at Alabama instead of Statw, he wouldn?t be mentioned.
    He's got more SEC wins this year than us. He's highly thought of. He's in the top 5 IMO. Godwin probably is at the top. Deggs is likely in there too, since he got a short look before. Then there are the big timers that will be tough pulls but you try anyway. After seeing the Three Bucketeers win a Natty, a good coach should see they can too.
    Last edited by Cooterpoot; 03-20-2023 at 09:20 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooterpoot View Post
    He's got more SEC wins this year than us. He's highly thought of. He's in the top 5 IMO. Godwin probably is at the top. Deggs is likely in there too, since he got a short look before. Then there are the big timers that will be tough pulls but you try anyway. After seeing the Three Bucketeers win a Natty, a good coach should see they can too.
    More SEC wins this year isn't saying much.

    He's a good coach, doesn't mean he's ready or deserving of this job. I like Lane, doesn't mean he should be in the top 5 coaches for this job.

    He's been to 2 regionals in 7 years at LA Tech.

    I mentioned this elsewhere, there are 2 coaches in Louisiana that are arguably better than him... yet only 1 of them kind of gets mentioned. The other? Not at all.

    Why is that? Cause Burroughs "is a State guy".

    Who are the other two guys?

    1. Matt Deggs - ULL. His name has been mentioned some. But not as much as Lane. Deggs has 3 Regional appearances, as well as 1 Super Regional appearance.
    2. Matt Riser - SEL. 4 regionals in 9 years.

    I'm even advocating for either. Simply pointing out that those 2 have been and are better coaches, yet we aren't even mentioned them.

    I can name 15 guys right now that are better options and realistic options.

    1. Dan Heefner - DBU
    2. Rob Vaughn - Maryland
    3. Chris Pollard - Duke
    4. John Szefc - Va Tech
    5. Jordan Bischell - CMU
    6. Justin Haire - Campbell
    7. Mark Calvi - USA
    8. Greg Lovelady - UCF
    9. Butch Thompson - Auburn
    10. Monte Lee - uSC hitting coach
    11. Casey Dunn - UAB
    12. Robert Woodard - Charlotte
    13. Matt Deggs - ULL
    14. Todd Interdonato - Wofford
    15. Mark Wasikowski - Oregon

    You could make arguments against some. But that list is virtually better than Burroughs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoachT14 View Post
    More SEC wins this year isn't saying much.

    He's a good coach, doesn't mean he's ready or deserving of this job. I like Lane, doesn't mean he should be in the top 5 coaches for this job.

    He's been to 2 regionals in 7 years at LA Tech.

    I mentioned this elsewhere, there are 2 coaches in Louisiana that are arguably better than him... yet only 1 of them kind of gets mentioned. The other? Not at all.

    Why is that? Cause Burroughs "is a State guy".

    Who are the other two guys?

    1. Matt Deggs - ULL. His name has been mentioned some. But not as much as Lane. Deggs has 3 Regional appearances, as well as 1 Super Regional appearance.
    2. Matt Riser - SEL. 4 regionals in 9 years.

    I'm even advocating for either. Simply pointing out that those 2 have been and are better coaches, yet we aren't even mentioned them.

    I can name 15 guys right now that are better options and realistic options.

    1. Dan Heefner - DBU
    2. Rob Vaughn - Maryland
    3. Chris Pollard - Duke
    4. John Szefc - Va Tech
    5. Jordan Bischell - CMU
    6. Justin Haire - Campbell
    7. Mark Calvi - USA
    8. Greg Lovelady - UCF
    9. Butch Thompson - Auburn
    10. Monte Lee - uSC hitting coach
    11. Casey Dunn - UAB
    12. Robert Woodard - Charlotte
    13. Matt Deggs - ULL
    14. Todd Interdonato - Wofford
    15. Mark Wasikowski - Oregon

    You could make arguments against some. But that list is virtually better than Burroughs.
    I really like Calvi. He recruited my son and he's a sharp guy and very cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoachT14 View Post
    More SEC wins this year isn't saying much.

    He's a good coach, doesn't mean he's ready or deserving of this job. I like Lane, doesn't mean he should be in the top 5 coaches for this job.

    He's been to 2 regionals in 7 years at LA Tech.

    I mentioned this elsewhere, there are 2 coaches in Louisiana that are arguably better than him... yet only 1 of them kind of gets mentioned. The other? Not at all.

    Why is that? Cause Burroughs "is a State guy".

    Who are the other two guys?

    1. Matt Deggs - ULL. His name has been mentioned some. But not as much as Lane. Deggs has 3 Regional appearances, as well as 1 Super Regional appearance.
    2. Matt Riser - SEL. 4 regionals in 9 years.

    I'm even advocating for either. Simply pointing out that those 2 have been and are better coaches, yet we aren't even mentioned them.

    I can name 15 guys right now that are better options and realistic options.

    1. Dan Heefner - DBU
    2. Rob Vaughn - Maryland
    3. Chris Pollard - Duke
    4. John Szefc - Va Tech
    5. Jordan Bischell - CMU
    6. Justin Haire - Campbell
    7. Mark Calvi - USA
    8. Greg Lovelady - UCF
    9. Butch Thompson - Auburn
    10. Monte Lee - uSC hitting coach
    11. Casey Dunn - UAB
    12. Robert Woodard - Charlotte
    13. Matt Deggs - ULL
    14. Todd Interdonato - Wofford
    15. Mark Wasikowski - Oregon

    You could make arguments against some. But that list is virtually better than Burroughs.
    I wouldn't put any of those lesser names ahead of him. La Tech is a dying athletics dept now that they're stuck in a terrible conference. He will do more with less. Many of those we aren't interest in and some aren't interested in us. There's a fit issue with several of those guys. Not that they're bad coaches. You can mark off Heefner and Butch and Calvi right off the bat. Interdonato, Dunn, Lee as well. Lee was an awful head coach by the way.
    We're going to pull better than that list or mine I believe.
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