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After the win against ATM, I figured State would be more in according to Lunardi and Palm. I thought beating ATM and Carolina would be enough but starting not to think that way. I don't understand why Palm has both WVU and OK State ahead of MSU. Both those teams play tonight WVU @ Iowa State and OK State got Baylor at home. Need both of them to lose but my gut feeling is, they both win. Wisconsin and Penn State both lost yesterday which was huge. I'm thinking MSU may have to win out and win a game in the SEC Tournament to get out of the first four
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Originally Posted by
RLM38654
After the win against ATM, I figured State would be more in according to Lunardi and Palm. I thought beating ATM and Carolina would be enough but starting not to think that way. I don't understand why Palm has both WVU and OK State ahead of MSU. Both those teams play tonight WVU @ Iowa State and OK State got Baylor at home. Need both of them to lose but my gut feeling is, they both win. Wisconsin and Penn State both lost yesterday which was huge. I'm thinking MSU may have to win out and win a game in the SEC Tournament to get out of the first four
Where are you seeing Lunardi's updated bracket? I only see the old update from before the A&M game
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Originally Posted by
RLM38654
After the win against ATM, I figured State would be more in according to Lunardi and Palm. I thought beating ATM and Carolina would be enough but starting not to think that way. I don't understand why Palm has both WVU and OK State ahead of MSU. Both those teams play tonight WVU @ Iowa State and OK State got Baylor at home. Need both of them to lose but my gut feeling is, they both win. Wisconsin and Penn State both lost yesterday which was huge. I'm thinking MSU may have to win out and win a game in the SEC Tournament to get out of the first four
SEC really getting 8 teams in scares me, especially if we are #8. ACC already complaining that they deserve more than 5 as they have beat up each other. I also want AU to continue to lose out including a game one loss in the SEC tourney. Hail State!
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Originally Posted by
Cloak
Where are you seeing Lunardi's updated bracket? I only see the old update from before the A&M game
Palm update now has us 1st team listed of last four in. Like you, can't find Lombardi update. Must win out and win a game or two in SEC tourney to take care of our business.
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That is correct. We need to win out and win the first SEC tournament game. If we do that we should make it. If not it’s a long shot
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Originally Posted by
RLM38654
After the win against ATM, I figured State would be more in according to Lunardi and Palm. I thought beating ATM and Carolina would be enough but starting not to think that way. I don't understand why Palm has both WVU and OK State ahead of MSU. Both those teams play tonight WVU @ Iowa State and OK State got Baylor at home. Need both of them to lose but my gut feeling is, they both win. Wisconsin and Penn State both lost yesterday which was huge. I'm thinking MSU may have to win out and win a game in the SEC Tournament to get out of the first four
There's no justification for Oklahoma State, but WVU's NET is 26. No question they should be ahead of us, and a lot of other teams. They'll probably be a 6 or 7 seed in the tourney.
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Baylor (-1.5) at ok st
WV at Iowa st (-5)
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Originally Posted by
PGHBulldogBG
That is correct. We need to win out and win the first SEC tournament game. If we do that we should make it. If not it’s a long shot
If we beat both Vandy and SC, we are 100% in. If we beat SC but lose to Vandy, we're still probably in, but need to go on a little run in the SEC tournament to be sure. Lose to SC and we can start planning for the NIT.
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Originally Posted by
PGHBulldogBG
That is correct. We need to win out and win the first SEC tournament game. If we do that we should make it. If not it?s a long shot
This is not true. Win both this week and we are almost certainly in. Win 1 and we still have a shot. Win both and a game in the SECT and there?s basically no way we?re not in.
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Originally Posted by
Bubb Rubb
If we beat both Vandy and SC, we are 100% in. If we beat SC but lose to Vandy, we're still probably in, but need to go on a little run in the SEC tournament to be sure. Lose to SC and we can start planning for the NIT.
We've heard that song many times over the years. We aren't 100% in with those wins, or even with those and a couple of SECT wins.
"After dealing with Ole Miss for over a year," he said, "I've learned to expect their leadership to do and say things that the leadership at other Division I schools would never consider doing and to justify their actions by reminding themselves that "We're Ole Miss.""
- Tom Mars, Esq. 4.9.18
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Originally Posted by
PGHBulldogBG
That is correct. We need to win out and win the first SEC tournament game. If we do that we should make it. If not it?s a long shot
I don't see it that way at all. Beat South Carolina, and then win one more game. Whether that be Vandy or an SEC tournament game. That should get us in. Honestly, as long as we beat USC, we would still have a decent chance, no matter what else happens.
But if we beat USCe and Vandy, we're definitely in, no matter what happens in the SECT
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Originally Posted by
BrunswickDawg
We've heard that song many times over the years. We aren't 100% in with those wins, or even with those and a couple of SECT wins.
I don’t ever remember a year where we thought we were in and didn’t make it.
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Originally Posted by
BrunswickDawg
We've heard that song many times over the years. We aren't 100% in with those wins, or even with those and a couple of SECT wins.
If we win both of our remaining games, our NET will be somewhere around 36. If we didn't make the tourney as an at large team with a NET of 36, it will make history as the highest rated NET to not get a bid.
Win out and we're in.
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Originally Posted by
smootness
I don’t ever remember a year where we thought we were in and didn’t make it.
2018 - we were tied for 7th in the SEC (9-9/22-11) Bama (8-10,19-15) and A&M (9-9, 20-12), who were both behind us in the SEC got in.
2012 - we were 6th in the SEC (8-8, 21-11)
2010 - we won the West (9-7, 23-11) Florida (9-7, 21-12) got in instead
All those are years real similar to this one from a record standpoint. '12 wasn't huge snub, but we had been ranked a good bit. '18 we really should have been in.
"After dealing with Ole Miss for over a year," he said, "I've learned to expect their leadership to do and say things that the leadership at other Division I schools would never consider doing and to justify their actions by reminding themselves that "We're Ole Miss.""
- Tom Mars, Esq. 4.9.18
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Originally Posted by
Cloak
Where are you seeing Lunardi's updated bracket? I only see the old update from before the A&M game
He hasn't updated on the website but on Saturday night they showed it on TV his last four in were 43 WVU 44 Wisconsin 45 State and OK State 46. You would think State would be ahead of Wisconsin now.
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Originally Posted by
RLM38654
He hasn't updated on the website but on Saturday night they showed it on TV his last four in were 43 WVU 44 Wisconsin 45 State and OK State 46. You would think State would be ahead of Wisconsin now.
I don't trust SEC getting 8 teams. Win out. Hail State!
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Originally Posted by
BrunswickDawg
2018 - we were tied for 7th in the SEC (9-9/22-11) Bama (8-10,19-15) and A&M (9-9, 20-12), who were both behind us in the SEC got in.
2012 - we were 6th in the SEC (8-8, 21-11)
2010 - we won the West (9-7, 23-11) Florida (9-7, 21-12) got in instead
All those are years real similar to this one from a record standpoint. '12 wasn't huge snub, but we had been ranked a good bit. '18 we really should have been in.
18 we played a terrible non con schedule and then had some just plain bad losses. @OM, @Mizzou, @Vandy, and @LSU.
12 we just folded down the stretch. Lost at home to UGA, @LSU, and @Auburn in a 3 game stretch that really tanked the season. I'm pretty sure the UGA game was the game that Hood came in the locker room after the game and said he was transferring and we had to talk him into playing the rest of the year. He was never the same and we were never the same.
10 showed that winning the West meant ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, which most of us knew already. We had bad non con losses that year. at home to Rider, and @WKU. Couple that with some bad conference losses like Auburn at home and at Bama and most knew we had to win the SEC Tourney to make it.
The difference this year is we really only have the one bad loss. @UGA.
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How Missouri is locked in as a 6th seed is weird if we are fighting for our lives to even make a play-in game
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Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
18 we played a terrible non con schedule and then had some just plain bad losses. @OM, @Mizzou, @Vandy, and @LSU.
12 we just folded down the stretch. Lost at home to UGA, @LSU, and @Auburn in a 3 game stretch that really tanked the season. I'm pretty sure the UGA game was the game that Hood came in the locker room after the game and said he was transferring and we had to talk him into playing the rest of the year. He was never the same and we were never the same.
10 showed that winning the West meant ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, which most of us knew already. We had bad non con losses that year. at home to Rider, and @WKU. Couple that with some bad conference losses like Auburn at home and at Bama and most knew we had to win the SEC Tourney to make it.
The difference this year is we really only have the one bad loss. @UGA.
Florida's a bad loss too, IMO.
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Originally Posted by
Bubb Rubb
Florida's a bad loss too, IMO.
It is now because Castelton is out. But at the time it wasn't viewed as bad as it is now.
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