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    Second game of the year. Some of y'all are unbelievable.

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    Jeff Brantley threw it about 85 but could pitch. We need pitchers not throwers. With our hitting we don’t need to shut people out. Stop errors and walks and we will win many games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EdwardDrayton View Post
    Second game of the year. Some of y'all are unbelievable.
    Actually, what we saw yesterday was the continuation of a trend from last year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mjoelner34 View Post
    Actually, what we saw yesterday was the continuation of a trend from last year.
    Two games does not yet support that premise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EdwardDrayton View Post
    Two games does not yet support that premise.
    The one yesterday was pretty much a mirror image of last year. One bad game doesn't start a trend just as the first game this year didn't break last year's trend. Until we put together a string of games where we're not giving free passes in double digits, last year's trend will not be broken.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mjoelner34 View Post
    The one yesterday was pretty much a mirror image of last year. One bad game doesn't start a trend just as the first game this year didn't break last year's trend. Until we put together a string of games where we're not giving free passes in double digits, last year's trend will not be broken.
    Just don't think that logic holds. Can't 'continue' a trend yet with a nine month interruption of competitive activity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EdwardDrayton View Post
    Two games does not yet support that premise.
    Yeah it does after last year's pitching stats. Too many walks and the trend continues

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    Quote Originally Posted by EdwardDrayton View Post
    Just don't think that logic holds. Can't 'continue' a trend yet with a nine month interruption of competitive activity.
    Haven't we struggled throwing strikes since fall ball?

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Haven't we struggled throwing strikes since fall ball?
    Hey now! Stop bringing facts into this. Facts are getting in the way of his narrative

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve View Post
    Hey now! Stop bringing facts into this. Facts are getting in the way of his narrative
    Who says

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    Quote Originally Posted by EdwardDrayton View Post
    Who says
    I'm going strictly on hearsay bc I haven't been to a scrimmage.

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    I know a little bit about baseball. Enough to make comments. And observations.

    I can almost guarantee you, that if you keep runners off the bases, they cannot steal bases or score runs.

    And since in baseball 3 in 10 is considered successful at hitting, I?d rather take chances on the 7 negative at bats than walk the bases full. But that?s just me. Y?all may feel different.

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    Sure you can. You can fire Foxall right now and get exactly the same production as we are seeing last season and this weekend.

    No one on our staff has proven they can throw strikes. No one has an out pitch. Gartman is showing me something though.

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    Big time strike outs there. Gartman keeps battling. He should tell the other pitchers, if you throw strikes you get to keep them guessing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    Same shit different year. It's either a recruiting issue or a coaching issue and it falls back on him either way. Guy just sits on his ass and lets guys who haven't performed fail over and over again. Hi Parker Stinnett! I don't know what the **** we are doing- or aren't doing but it isn't working. And to people that say he won a NC- well our worst baseball poster on here knows that Landon Sims is unhittable. You can't really screw that up. Although Foxhall almost did bring in Parker Stinnett in instead of Sims when we were behind to piss away the game 2 against Texas in Omaha so maybe Foxhall is that dumb.

    He should have been fired last year. But this is what happens when you choose friends over winning Lemonis. He better learn that ****ing lesson now if he doesn't want to end up at the Citadel where VMI can kick his ass over and over again.

    We need to bring in Jay Powell as interim pitching coach and move Dohm, Loftin, or Loo to the rotation- whichever one is the most ready.

    Luke Hancock is going to force us to play Highfill. We can't have teams just running at will on us- ESPECIALLY with this staff.

    Defense- just have to rep it. That's the best way to get better at it that I know. Good thing we have Ron Polk around who I would use to just rep the heck out of it for hours.
    Even during the NC season, he found a way to ruin Macleoud, fristoe, and I guess maybe Cerentola.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PMDawg View Post
    Even during the NC season, he found a way to ruin Macleoud, fristoe, and I guess maybe Cerentola.
    Since he has been here:

    Cerentola, Ginn, Fristoe, Hunt, Stinnett, MacLeoud, and Andrew Walling were all rated as top 200 MLB draft prospects and NONE of them have developed under Foxhall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    Since he has been here:

    Cerentola, Ginn, Fristoe, Hunt, Stinnett, MacLeoud, and Andrew Walling were all rated as top 200 MLB draft prospects and NONE of them have developed under Foxhall.
    100%, I would even add that Tepper was a big recruit and that Tullar was a high-end draft risk when he came to MSU -

    Butch, on the on the other hand, successfully turned Girodo and Lindy into unhittable monsters. Even Butch's challenge guys like Evan Mitchell did not freak-out like we have kids now.

    Gary Henderson, turned Cole Gordon into an MSU legend, in-Season! No fall ball. He whispered Gordon, Plumlee, Price, and Mangum to Performance. 17 SEC wins and Supers with Cannizarro. Then Omaha in 2018 as the combo-PC and HC.

    We did not used to have so many headcase and wasted talent. MSU pitching used to be warriors that greatly exceeded their recruiting pedigree. Now the opposite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tcdog70 View Post
    Jeff Brantley threw it about 85 but could pitch. We need pitchers not throwers. With our hitting we don?t need to shut people out. Stop errors and walks and we will win many games.
    Jeff consistently threw his fastball between 90-92. In the pros, he got it up to 93-94 on occasion, but mostly operated about the same in college. His big strikeout pitch was a couple changeup speeds. He would drop one down to about 87 and another to around 84-85. And you could not tell what was coming. The heater or the off speed pitch. He was outstanding at disguising all of them.
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