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I think a lot of apprehension comes from JoMo coming and being supposedly an offensive genius. I just remember two runs and then a pass attempt when they were behind the chains
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Originally Posted by
Desoto1967
I think a lot of apprehension comes from JoMo coming and being supposedly an offensive genius. I just remember two runs and then a pass attempt when they were behind the chains
That's a major part of it. That went back to the final years of Mullen too.
Our system did not attract QBs that could throw the football. Yes we had an exception. But he wasn't the norm. That issue was compounded by a lack of WRs of quality. JoMo came in and could not work any magic on QB to Wrs. The talent was an issue.
The breaded one completed 57% of his passes. Threw for 8 TDs and thres 5 INTs. And we were behind the chains all of the time. It's a legit concern that those rooms take a step backwards. That's not to say we will, just that its a concern.
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Originally Posted by
KB21
He also says it all begins with the running game, so its obvious that he's going to try and establish that aspect of the offense even though establishing the running game is not important. Establishing the passing game is far more important.
Important enough that Coach Leach changed his philosophy to increase our rushing attempts significantly early in games this season.
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Originally Posted by
Really Clark?
Important enough that Coach Leach changed his philosophy to increase our rushing attempts significantly early in games this season.
And was going to continue running the ball more including recruiting more mobile QBs. By KB's standards Riley and Holgerson run pro style offenses.
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Originally Posted by
TrapGame
And was going to continue running the ball more including recruiting more mobile QBs. By KB's standards Riley and Holgerson run pro style offenses.
He didn't recruit Parson because he could run. He recruited him because he felt he add the accuracy and decision making ability to run his offense. The mobility aspect was just an added feature. Mike Leach wasn't going to suddenly start playing an inaccurate mobile QB, like Mike Wright, and completely changing his scheme to fit that inaccuracy.
#AirRaidForever!!#SwingYourSword!!#FireArnett
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Originally Posted by
KB21
He didn't recruit Parson because he could run. He recruited him because he felt he add the accuracy and decision making ability to run his offense. The mobility aspect was just an added feature. Mike Leach wasn't going to suddenly start playing an inaccurate mobile QB, like Mike Wright, and completely changing his scheme to fit that inaccuracy.
Serious question.
How do you clean up all that bullshit that leaks out of your ears?
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Originally Posted by
KB21
He didn't recruit Parson because he could run. He recruited him because he felt he add the accuracy and decision making ability to run his offense. The mobility aspect was just an added feature. Mike Leach wasn't going to suddenly start playing an inaccurate mobile QB, like Mike Wright, and completely changing his scheme to fit that inaccuracy.
You're the definition of c u n t.
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Originally Posted by
Really Clark?
Important enough that Coach Leach changed his philosophy to increase our rushing attempts significantly early in games this season.
Increasing your runs by a little bit early in games isn't the same as making the running game the focal point of your offense.
#AirRaidForever!!#SwingYourSword!!#FireArnett
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Originally Posted by
Really Clark?
Important enough that Coach Leach changed his philosophy to increase our rushing attempts significantly early in games this season.
Yes, but QBs and WRs still knew they were going to get a lot of reps and that attracted higher quality players at those positions. The argument from me was that.
Now, we will have to see if we can continue that trend with a Pro Style. A 50-57% passer will not cut it with this system or any other system in the SEC.
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Originally Posted by
BlackSailsDawg
Yes, but QBs and WRs still knew they were going to get a lot of reps and that attracted higher quality players at those positions. The argument from me was that.
Now, we will have to see if we can continue that trend with a Pro Style. A 50-57% passer will not cut it with this system or any other system in the SEC.
Ben Arbuckle from Western Kentucky would have been a better hire for this reason.
#AirRaidForever!!#SwingYourSword!!#FireArnett
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Originally Posted by
TrapGame
And was going to continue running the ball more including recruiting more mobile QBs. By KB's standards Riley and Holgerson run pro style offenses.
Apparently we were the only team in America running a non pro style offense lol!
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Originally Posted by
KB21
Increasing your runs by a little bit early in games isn't the same as making the running game the focal point of your offense.
A little bit?!? Don't be dishonest. We went from 48% of our total rushes occurring in the first half of games last year to 57% this season. We increased our first quarter rushes by 36% from last year to this year. That's not a little bit, that's a shift in philosophy
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Regarding Harmon -
I have no idea what the kid wants to do, but I do know a little about him. I watched him n several games in high school. When he wanted to be, he was the best player on the field his soph and junior seasons of HS. He read the clippings/hype and it got to him a bit, but the results also humbled him after that junior year. He also had a great staff come in that pushed him and held him accountable his senior year and it made a huge difference for him internally.
He was competing for playing time on the at X & Z positions with guys who are redshirt juniors and seniors. He wasn?t cracking that this year. He?s not the fastest, but the kid has got glue for hands and is much stronger than most would think for his size. He could very easily add 10lbs and be a solid TE hybrid. He is a definite possible matchup issue there for the nickel/strong or an OLB.
Last edited by Westdawg; 02-02-2023 at 07:32 PM.
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Originally Posted by
TrapGame
Serious question.
How do you clean up all that bullshit that leaks out of your ears?
Obviously you have to buy into the whole always run never pass philosophy most of you want, because if you dare think that passing the ball is more important/effective/efficient than running the ball, you get criticized.
The same apparently applies to those who believe in what Mike Leach was doing and prefers to see what he was building continue and not get town down.
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Originally Posted by
KB21
Obviously you have to buy into the whole always run never pass philosophy most of you want, because if you dare think that passing the ball is more important/effective/efficient than running the ball, you get criticized.
The same apparently applies to those who believe in what Mike Leach was doing and prefers to see what he was building continue and not get town down.
More bs spewed by you. Again, nobody has said always run never pass. You just come back with that bs line and use it as your defense. Just keep making crap up.
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Originally Posted by
KB21
Obviously you have to buy into the whole always run never pass philosophy most of you want, because if you dare think that passing the ball is more important/effective/efficient than running the ball, you get criticized.
The same apparently applies to those who believe in what Mike Leach was doing and prefers to see what he was building continue and not get town down.
Most fans want a 50/50 split. That's actually progress from the days when our fans didn't believe we could consistently pass at all which was as recent as when Moorhead left. You can actually thank Mike Leach for changing that with our fan base- for the better.
I think we should be 60/40 pass/run myself.
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Originally Posted by
Todd4State
Most fans want a 50/50 split. That's actually progress from the days when our fans didn't believe we could consistently pass at all which was as recent as when Moorhead left. You can actually thank Mike Leach for changing that with our fan base- for the better.
I think we should be 60/40 pass/run myself.
And change that up based on what the defense is giving up. I have no problem with 45/55 run if we are popping them in the mouth and they can't stop it.
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Originally Posted by
Todd4State
Most fans want a 50/50 split. That's actually progress from the days when our fans didn't believe we could consistently pass at all which was as recent as when Moorhead left. You can actually thank Mike Leach for changing that with our fan base- for the better.
I think we should be 60/40 pass/run myself.
Nothing in this coordinator's history suggests that he will favor the pass with his play calling at all.
#AirRaidForever!!#SwingYourSword!!#FireArnett
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Originally Posted by
KB21
Obviously you have to buy into the whole always run never pass philosophy most of you want, because if you dare think that passing the ball is more important/effective/efficient than running the ball, you get criticized.
The same apparently applies to those who believe in what Mike Leach was doing and prefers to see what he was building continue and not get town down.
Not one person has advocated to always run it and never pass. Not a single person. That is one of biggest reasons you get blasted, you just flat out lie for an agenda and/or lying to troll.
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Originally Posted by
PMDawg
There's a lot that you don't understand about football (like all of it), but let's start with just your main fallacy here. You keep running around saying "pro-style offense" and screaming that the world is ending and our pets' heads are falling off. However, you don't even know what pro-style offense means. All it means is we are going to run plays out of multiple formations (hence the need to add a TE back into the equation) and we are going to use motion. That's it. It has no bearing on how much we run or pass the ball.
Are we going to run the ball more? Yes. No one passes the ball as much as Mike Leach did. There's nothing anyone can do about that. There's literally no one we could have hired that wasn't going to run the ball more than Leach did. That's a fact. The thing that remains to be seen is HOW much more we will run it. We'll just have to wait and see. You don't know and I don't know.
I know you wanted to keep the AR, but the pure Air Raid died with Mike Leach. It sucks, but we can't change it. Could we have stuck closer to the AR than what we did? Yes, for sure. But that in and of itself doesn't mean what we did is destined to fail. Pro Style is not a death knell for us
Good coaches exist across all schemes. All we can do is sit back and wait to see if we hired good coaches or not. Enough with the sky screaming already. It's useless. You can't change a thing and you just look crazy at this point. Suck it up, you tit.
Excellent post and dead on a accurate on everything!
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