Coordinator and position coach interviews

[Leroy Jenkins]

[Leroy Jenkins]

Schmidt said they are looking at Clayton, Harmon, and Ellis for potential moves to TE with Goede.

[PMDawg]

Schmidt said they are looking at Clayton, Harmon, and Ellis for potential moves to TE with Goede.

Paging StarkvegasSteve and BlackSailsDawg....

[StarkVegasSteve]

Paging StarkvegasSteve and BlackSailsDawg....

Hey maybe Harmon has come around to the idea. I have no problem with any of them trying it if they are up for it and are willing to work. I just have caution on the idea that Harmon is automatically going to be a TE and be better. He got passed multiple times on the depth chart last year and I doubt it is because he was out of position.. Clayton and Ellis are strictly being put out there for bodies.

[Reason2succeed]

Hey maybe Harmon has come around to the idea. I have no problem with any of them trying it if they are up for it and are willing to work. I just have caution on the idea that Harmon is automatically going to be a TE and be better. He got passed multiple times on the depth chart last year and I doubt it is because he was out of position.. Clayton and Ellis are strictly being put out there for bodies.

How do you know Clayton and Ellis won?t be able to compete? Sure Goede is likely the starter but Clayton was a TE in HS. Harmon ought to have good hands and route running. We need more than one guy though. I would love to see real Jumbo packages for goal line situations. You never know what some of these kids may be able to do when given the chance.

[Todd4State]

How do you know Clayton and Ellis won?t be able to compete? Sure Goede is likely the starter but Clayton was a TE in HS. Harmon ought to have good hands and route running. We need more than one guy though. I would love to see real Jumbo packages for goal line situations. You never know what some of these kids may be able to do when given the chance.

No way we see Ellis as a TE long term. An attached TE seems kind of like a waste to me. If we want a sixth offensive lineman then just let one of the offensive linemen be the attached TE. It's not like the guy would be expected to run a ton of pass routes whoever it is.

[KB21]

Everybody wants to know about the system, going from Air Raid to Pro Style

Hmm

[PMDawg]

Hmm

Now, quote the rest of that sentence, the context, and the next couple of sentences.

[KB21]

Now, quote the rest of that sentence, the context, and the next couple of sentences.

It's not going to change the fact that he runs a pro style offense and admitted it in that interview, and I told you weeks ago that he ran a pro style offense.

[Leroy Jenkins]

It's not going to change the fact that he runs a pro style offense and admitted it in that interview, and I told you weeks ago that he ran a pro style offense.

Lots of definitions of what "pro-style" means.

[PMDawg]

It's not going to change the fact that he runs a pro style offense and admitted it in that interview, and I told you weeks ago that he ran a pro style offense.

There's a lot that you don't understand about football (like all of it), but let's start with just your main fallacy here. You keep running around saying "pro-style offense" and screaming that the world is ending and our pets' heads are falling off. However, you don't even know what pro-style offense means. All it means is we are going to run plays out of multiple formations (hence the need to add a TE back into the equation) and we are going to use motion. That's it. It has no bearing on how much we run or pass the ball.

Are we going to run the ball more? Yes. No one passes the ball as much as Mike Leach did. There's nothing anyone can do about that. There's literally no one we could have hired that wasn't going to run the ball more than Leach did. That's a fact. The thing that remains to be seen is HOW much more we will run it. We'll just have to wait and see. You don't know and I don't know.

I know you wanted to keep the AR, but the pure Air Raid died with Mike Leach. It sucks, but we can't change it. Could we have stuck closer to the AR than what we did? Yes, for sure. But that in and of itself doesn't mean what we did is destined to fail. Pro Style is not a death knell for us
Good coaches exist across all schemes. All we can do is sit back and wait to see if we hired good coaches or not. Enough with the sky screaming already. It's useless. You can't change a thing and you just look crazy at this point. Suck it up, you tit.

[Really Clark?]

It's not going to change the fact that he runs a pro style offense and admitted it in that interview, and I told you weeks ago that he ran a pro style offense.

Most everyone knew that. Big deal. It's not a traditional pro set with running 70% of the time offense either. That's what your delusional mind keeps posting about over and over. He is multiple. He is spread. He runs AR passing concepts. He runs a lot of different formations, motion, etc. Not the lie you try to paint.

[mo7888]

As someone who's very skeptical of some of the offensive moves we made, the following sounded pretty positive to me...

Looking ahead to the season, Arnett said Mississippi State?s offense in the passing game will ?heavily mirror? what it did for the past 3 years under Mike Leach. To call it a ?drastic change,? Arnett said, would be ?foolish.? Conceptually what we are going to do in the passing game will not be different from previous years, Arnett said, and added it would be ?stupid? to change when you have had success like MSU did.

[DEDawg]

Most everyone knew that. Big deal. It's not a traditional pro set with running 70% of the time offense either. That's what your delusional mind keeps posting about over and over. He is multiple. He is spread. He runs AR passing concepts. He runs a lot of different formations, motion, etc. Not the lie you try to paint.

Plus ?pro style? doesn?t even mean rushing more than passing anymore. Out of 32 teams only 4 rushed more than passed this season. The avg rush to pass ratio in the NFL is like 43% run

[KB21]

Plus ?pro style? doesn?t even mean rushing more than passing anymore. Out of 32 teams only 4 rushed more than passed this season. The avg rush to pass ratio in the NFL is like 43% run

The bigger issue is trying to make a pro style offense work in a conference where you do not have a talent advantage over every team you play. It's a much more complex system than the air raid. It's going to be harder for players to master what they have to do because they will not be getting the reps in practice like they did in the Air Raid.

[StarkVegasSteve]

The bigger issue is trying to make a pro style offense work in a conference where you do not have a talent advantage over every team you play. It's a much more complex system than the air raid. It's going to be harder for players to master what they have to do because they will not be getting the reps in practice like they did in the Air Raid.

our guys are not stupid. Our coaches are not either. We will figure out what works for our roster and adapt the scheme to that. At least that is what they will do if they want to keep their jobs.

[Really Clark?]

The bigger issue is trying to make a pro style offense work in a conference where you do not have a talent advantage over every team you play. It's a much more complex system than the air raid. It's going to be harder for players to master what they have to do because they will not be getting the reps in practice like they did in the Air Raid.

And all those extra reps in a simpler system helped us how?

You are jumping to a conclusion with no basis and predetermining our players are too dumb to understand a new system. I'm not saying that there won't be a learning curve but his system is not near as hard as you are making it out to be. Even in the NFL you have a wide scale of easy to difficult schemes. It's not cookie cutter like you want people to believe. BTW, CML system was not as easy as you think either, especially for the QB.

[BorneDawg]

if you even half way listened to them they said multiple times .... find the playmakers and get them the ball ..... now wether its by pass or run or by screen whatever way it takes.. sounds like to me that we will run what best suits our personel

[KB21]

if you even half way listened to them they said multiple times .... find the playmakers and get them the ball ..... now wether its by pass or run or by screen whatever way it takes.. sounds like to me that we will run what best suits our personel

He also says it all begins with the running game, so its obvious that he's going to try and establish that aspect of the offense even though establishing the running game is not important. Establishing the passing game is far more important.

[CoachT14]

He also says it all begins with the running game, so its obvious that he's going to try and establish that aspect of the offense even though establishing the running game is not important. Establishing the passing game is far more important.

You do realize that him saying it begins with the running come doesn't automatically mean he will force feed the run to "establish" it. It simply means that the run game is extremely important to making an offense go. I can say bunting helps establish a baseline for a good hitter. That doesn't mean that he will bunt every time he's at the plate or even a majority of the time. It simply means that to be a good hitter, being able to bunt successful is almost always a pre-requisite. I can say being able to score in the paint helps establish the outside shot, that doesn't mean that we are going to shoot 20 or less 3's per game. It simply means that it's important to have a good big mean who can score when the 3 isn't working.

I say all that knowing you're one of the biggest idiots I've ever seen on a message board and knowing you're going to say some stupid off the wall remark that takes anything I said out of context.