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    Quote Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve View Post
    You do realize Joe Brady runs Moorhead's offense right? Moorhead wanted to bring him in to be OC in 2019 but some people threw a fit because he had never been an OC and had only been an offensive asst for one year and it was at the pro level.
    Well to be technical he also ran Sean Payton's offense at LSU with Moorhead's RPO's added in.

    I don't want Brady specifically. Just someone with a similar pro background. Like a guy that was an offensive assistant under Kyle Shanahan or Sean McVay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    The teams that win the National Championship are close to 50/50 which is a big change from years past. Especially when you consider sacks go down as running plays. Then consider that most of the time they have a lead late in a game and therefore run the ball to run the clock out.

    Can't really look at champions without also looking at their defensive and special teams stats.

    The best offense in there was LSU's which was pass heavy.

    As more and more teams invest in analytics it's only a matter of time before teams are winning titles with 60/40 pass run split. The NFL is close to that right now as it is. And the SEC is starting to look more and more to the NFL for coaches- see Todd Monken, Bill O'Brien, Joe Brady, and etc.

    Actually in hindsight would have liked to have seen us hire an up and coming Joe Brady type.
    How Brady didn't call the plays for lsu. Emsfinger did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Homedawg View Post
    How Brady didn't call the plays for lsu. Emsfinger did.
    That's true. I speaking more to the influence he had on their offense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    That's true. I speaking more to the influence he had on their offense.
    I get ya

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    Well to be technical he also ran Sean Payton's offense at LSU with Moorhead's RPO's added in.

    I don't want Brady specifically. Just someone with a similar pro background. Like a guy that was an offensive assistant under Kyle Shanahan or Sean McVay.

    They didn't run the Saints offense. They ran an RPO based spread, that's not Sean Payton. That's Joe Moorhead. It was a ton of 11 and 10 personnel. Ed brought Brady in on Sean's recommendation, but it wasn't to run the Saints offense. He knew Joe wanted to get back to the pro game but needed play calling experience and LSU needed some new life on the offensive side of the ball. It was a perfect one year marriage.
    Last edited by StarkVegasSteve; 01-23-2023 at 10:26 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve View Post
    They didn't run the Saints offense. They ran an RPO based spread, that's not Sean Payton. That's Joe Moorhead. It was a ton of 11 and 10 personnel. Ed brought Brady in on Sean's recommendation, but it wasn't to run the Saints offense. He knew Joe wanted to get back to the pro game but needed play calling experience and LSU needed some new life on the offensive side of the ball. It was a perfect one year marriage.
    "Brady said "a very good portion" of LSU's passing game and even the offensive terminology come from the Saints. But his ideas go beyond just the Saints playbook. In fact, one of the main reasons that Orgeron hired him was because of his knowledge of the run-pass option game that he developed while working as a graduate assistant at Penn State."

    "When I watch the LSU offense, it is a heavily schemed pro-style route tree that resembles the New Orleans Saints -- in terms of how they put defensive coverages and defensive players in conflict," Bowen said. "And what that requires is for an elite-level quarterback to go through pro progressions, to find the voids in zone coverage and to find the matchups that are created within this offense."

    https://www.espn.com/college-footbal...drew-brees-101

    If I had it my way this is the kind of offense we would run. Life isn't perfect though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    "Brady said "a very good portion" of LSU's passing game and even the offensive terminology come from the Saints. But his ideas go beyond just the Saints playbook. In fact, one of the main reasons that Orgeron hired him was because of his knowledge of the run-pass option game that he developed while working as a graduate assistant at Penn State."

    "When I watch the LSU offense, it is a heavily schemed pro-style route tree that resembles the New Orleans Saints -- in terms of how they put defensive coverages and defensive players in conflict," Bowen said. "And what that requires is for an elite-level quarterback to go through pro progressions, to find the voids in zone coverage and to find the matchups that are created within this offense."

    https://www.espn.com/college-footbal...drew-brees-101

    If I had it my way this is the kind of offense we would run. Life isn't perfect though.
    Brady's offense was a pro style offense that worked to that level because he had an elite NFL QB, two elite NFL WRs, and an average NFL RB. What happened when that talent left, Joe Brady left, and they tried to run the same system with weaker talent?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KB21 View Post
    Brady's offense was a pro style offense that worked to that level because he had an elite NFL QB, two elite NFL WRs, and an average NFL RB. What happened when that talent left, Joe Brady left, and they tried to run the same system with weaker talent?
    Yes, talent matters a lot. However in this case LSU was spiraling out of control because they went insane after winning the National Championship.

    Which is ultimately why Coach O resigned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KB21 View Post
    Brady's offense was a pro style offense that worked to that level because he had an elite NFL QB, two elite NFL WRs, and an average NFL RB. What happened when that talent left, Joe Brady left, and they tried to run the same system with weaker talent?
    They scored over 32 ppg against an all SEC schedule the next year. They were really bad on defense, not offense. You are once again talking out your ass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarius View Post
    They scored over 32 ppg against an all SEC schedule the next year. They were really bad on defense, not offense. You are once again talking out your ass.
    Yeah, with a better defense Coach O might have kept his job another year at least. The offense was okay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrapGame View Post
    Yeah, with a better defense Coach O might have kept his job another year at least. The offense was okay.
    The offense he thought was bad scored more ppg than any offense Leach had here and LSU did it with an all sec schedule.

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    Really? LSU had the #1 OFEI rating in 2019. That fell to 94th in 2020.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KB21 View Post
    Really? LSU had the #1 OFEI rating in 2019. That fell to 94th in 2020.
    They had a top 5 scoring offense in the conference in 2020. Points are all that matter. Go count the number of times we have scored 32 ppg within conference play. I'll wait.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KB21 View Post
    Brady's offense was a pro style offense that worked to that level because he had an elite NFL QB, two elite NFL WRs, and an average NFL RB. What happened when that talent left, Joe Brady left, and they tried to run the same system with weaker talent?
    What did they run the year before Brady?

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    how much time u got?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KB21 View Post
    Really? LSU had the #1 OFEI rating in 2019. That fell to 94th in 2020.
    Are you so stupid that you don't know how to quote a post?
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    well, he is stupid but lotta them slave owner types from oxfart are that away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pancho View Post
    well, he is stupid but lotta them slave owner types from oxfart are that away.
    Unfortunately kb is one of our own. Unless he's been posing on genespage for 20 years. So I doubt it.

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    If he ain't a khaki shorts n polo shirt frat boy from oxfart, he sure does want to be one. I guess we all have stupid fans. Why is he so fascinated in acting like one of them?

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