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    Quote Originally Posted by KB21 View Post
    Arnett is hiring another OL coach for his new ground and pound offense.
    One is likely coaching TE's. Our offense will be significantly better in '23 & you can screenshot this. Stop being a whiney nerd my man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KB21 View Post
    Arnett is hiring another OL coach for his new ground and pound offense.
    Last edited by Really Clark?; 01-20-2023 at 10:23 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KB21 View Post
    Arnett is hiring another OL coach for his new ground and pound offense.

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    I'm more convinced now than I ever was that we made a mistake in not conducting a proper head coaching search. Get ready to watch our running backs run up the gut for 2 yards over and over and over again.
    #AirRaidForever!!#SwingYourSword!!#FireArnett

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    Quote Originally Posted by KB21 View Post
    I'm more convinced now than I ever was that we made a mistake in not conducting a proper head coaching search. Get ready to watch our running backs run up the gut for 2 yards over and over and over again.
    Well if they can just 3 yards up the gut over and over agin , first down every time..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ari Gold View Post
    Well if they can just 3 yards up the gut over and over agin , first down every time..
    Just wait until the Spring Game. LOL. If the offense doesn't put up a TD on every drive, this guy is gonna destroy the board for a while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KB21 View Post
    I'm more convinced now than I ever was that we made a mistake in not conducting a proper head coaching search. Get ready to watch our running backs run up the gut for 2 yards over and over and over again.
    Yea you're a troll
    "We will have no problem in handling Kentucky."-Turfdawg67. MSU suffered a 27-17 defeat in 2022 with 225 yards in total offense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PMDawg View Post
    Just wait until the Spring Game. LOL. If the offense doesn't put up a TD on every drive, this guy is gonna destroy the board for a while.
    What is really frustrating is that for those of us who are a little concerned that the offense does appear to be making a significant change can't say sh!t because I don't want to get lumped in with this idiot.

    I think it is ok to be a little concerned about the change in system that is coming. I don't think it is ok to think we hired Paul Johnson.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog View Post
    What is really frustrating is that for those of us who are a little concerned that the offense does appear to be making a significant change can't say sh!t because I don't want to get lumped in with this idiot.

    I think it is ok to be a little concerned about the change in system that is coming. I don't think it is ok to think we hired Paul Johnson.
    Have some rep!

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    Quote Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog View Post
    What is really frustrating is that for those of us who are a little concerned that the offense does appear to be making a significant change can't say sh!t because I don't want to get lumped in with this idiot.

    I think it is ok to be a little concerned about the change in system that is coming. I don't think it is ok to think we hired Paul Johnson.
    Paul Johnson is AR though. He ran mesh sometimes. According to KB that's AR since Monken ran mesh and he's labeling him as AR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog View Post
    What is really frustrating is that for those of us who are a little concerned that the offense does appear to be making a significant change can't say sh!t because I don't want to get lumped in with this idiot.

    I think it is ok to be a little concerned about the change in system that is coming. I don't think it is ok to think we hired Paul Johnson.
    You are right, it is understandable for someone to be concerned. None us ultimately know how good or bad or average the offense will be. I think it was a good hire but can see where others have concerns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KB21 View Post
    So there are still people who refuse to accept the fact that he runs McElwain?s system.
    Dude I wasn?t super excited about Barbay either due to the McElwain connection, but then I looked into it a little further. You should too.

    The first thing you should look at is the offense the year before he got there compared to his offense his first year. It?s basically the same O. He?s not going to make wholesale changes his first year at State, but he?ll gradually & progressively tweak things to his liking. He?s not an idiot like Moorhead. I think it?s a pretty good hire, could?ve done worse.

    This is the guy ZA wanted. Argue with him

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    Quote Originally Posted by KB21 View Post
    Get ready to watch our running backs run up the gut for 2 yards over and over and over again.
    This is just silly

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    Quote Originally Posted by Really Clark? View Post
    You are right, it is understandable for someone to be concerned. None us ultimately know how good or bad or average the offense will be. I think it was a good hire but can see where others have concerns.
    In a vacuum I really like the hire. I like the offense he runs, my only concern is that I think we need a dual threat QB to really thrive and he hasn't really had that in a while, which is a blessing and a curse. Its a blessing because Will is not mobile so he really does fit this offense well, it doesn't require a dynamic QB. In fact, I think it plays to Will's strengths of good ball placement and protecting the ball overall. I think it is a bit of a curse because I think to win in the SEC at MSU your QB needs to be a running threat. It is simply a numbers issue. I don't think we can win consistently letting the defense not have to scheme against a mobile QB. This offense doesn't do that. I've watched more App State games in the last week, and I'm not convinced this offense can work right away with what we have on the OL. They really drive off the ball and are quick, and require their OL to get to the second level in the run game, this is not something we have had to do in awhile, since we haven't seen teams with 7 or 8 men in the box in at least 3 years. Maybe we can, but it is just not something we have tried to do in the last 3 years.

    One of the underrated parts of their offense is the run blocking of their WR's. We have at least 3 WR's that won't be big in the run game, and I think we need to find at least 1 maybe 2 bigger WR's that can not only win the jump ball against 1 on 1 coverage, but are hell on wheels in the run game.

    I do hope they incorporate a running QB once we have that as an option and I also hope we find some TE's/FB because they sure do utilize those guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog View Post
    What is really frustrating is that for those of us who are a little concerned that the offense does appear to be making a significant change can't say sh!t because I don't want to get lumped in with this idiot.

    I think it is ok to be a little concerned about the change in system that is coming. I don't think it is ok to think we hired Paul Johnson.
    Yeah, I can buy that. I think most of us can distinguish between the two. Of course there's reason for concern. We made a coaching change, and it happened because our one of a kind coach died. There is plenty of room for healthy apprehension and a "wait and see" attitude. I think everyone is at least a little fearful of the outcome. We replaced an old vet with a unique system for a 1st time head coach who doesn't even have a known system. There are a few guys on the board who have gone completely overboard, but they're easy to spot and differentiate from the rest of the crowd.

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