Will Rogers - shopping around

[confucius say]

You know how

Then why don't we turn it in? It's one of the few things left that is against the rules. I'd love to catch auburn right at the beginning of Hugh's tenure.

Also, the staff told players we would keep the offense in the air raid family before or after hiring barbay? I'm assuming before.

[662dawg]

You wouldn't do the deal straight up if it were available? I think Ashford ceiling is way higher than will.

I love Will as a person & player for Mississippi State. I for sure do not want him to leave. But let's be realistic here, there's no chance in hell he'd ever start in Hugh Freeze's offense. If they are after him it's more to get him away from us. Ashford is a way better fit for Hugh than Will. This shouldn't even be debatable. He'd never see the field in that offense barring a couple of injuries or something. It's the worst offense possible for Will.

We do need to bring someone in to push him. In fact we just about have to go out & get two scholarship qb's via the portal.

However, the perfect scenario is a much improved Will Rogers playing QB for the Mississippi State University in 2023.

[DEDawg]

You know how

Curious if there is any repercussions to this or if the NCAA even cares. I give Will a lot of flak on the field, but 100% agree he is all dawg. He's legit a great rep for our school, and if Auburn or whoever came to him and he was not in the portal, I hope he blasts them on social media for tampering and we retain legal support. Even professional leagues have major penalties for this including loss of draft picks. If NCAA actually gives a shit they've got to dock scholarships or take bowl eligibility from a big name and make an example.

[662dawg]

Did someone actually suggest trading Will for Robbie Ashford? LOL! You really don?t know anything about Barbay?s offense huh? To even think that Ashford could succeed in Barbay?s pro style spread is comical.

No chance in hell I'd trade Will for Ashford in Barbay's offense. No chance in hell I'd trade Ashford for Will in Hugh Freeze's offense.

[confucius say]

Did someone actually suggest trading Will for Robbie Ashford? LOL! You really don?t know anything about Barbay?s offense huh? To even think that Ashford could succeed in Barbay?s pro style spread is comical.

You think the offense cannot incorporate qb run game? Watch this.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DFBfZ1rMZ1c

[BrunswickDawg]

Then why don't we turn it in? It's one of the few things left that is against the rules. I'd love to catch auburn right at the beginning of Hugh's tenure.

Also, the staff told players we would keep the offense in the air raid family before or after hiring barbay? I'm assuming before.

Because the ncaa has all but said they can't go after tampering by setting no rules and investigating no one for tampering since this began. Same with the SEC. It's the Wild West.

[RiverCityDawg]

You wouldn't do the deal straight up if it were available? I think Ashford ceiling is way higher than will.

Ashford will never be a consistent successful starter at QB in the SEC. He cannot pass it a lick. He really should switch to DB or WR.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Did Arnett nuke the f?n program? Lol

No. Leach passing had something to do with it.

[viverlibre]

Ding ding ding. That's why our strategy has been to retain than buy new guys.

You seem dense, so let me break this down for you. Money is money, if we pay someone $100k to stay or pay $100k for someone to come in, it still costs us $100k. We can't overpay to retain a an average player. If we can get a hometown discount, then yes retaining is the great, if we have to match an offer it is not. Yes we should concentrate on current players, but not over pay them.

[Lord McBuckethead]

What? Scholarships worth more to most athletes? NIL is above and beyond a scholarship. The scholarship is a given.

[Homedawg]

You seem dense, so let me break this down for you. Money is money, if we pay someone $100k to stay or pay $100k for someone to come in, it still costs us $100k. We can't overpay to retain a an average player. If we can get a hometown discount, then yes retaining is the great, if we have to match an offer it is not. Yes we should concentrate on current players, but not over pay them.

You're not understanding the point. I'll try one more time. If you have player A that is here and he is equal to player b that isn't here. It cost 50k to keep player A and 100k to get player b.

[viverlibre]

You're not understanding the point. I'll try one more time. If you have player A that is here and he is equal to player b that isn't here. It cost 50k to keep player A and 100k to get player b.

Dude, that's what is meant by "home town discount." If we get it, it makes sense, but if we have to match an offer, then retaining may not make sense.

Yes everyone focuses on retaining current players, but if someone comes with a strong offer for a current player and the player wants his current team to match, then his current team may want to look elsewhere. I'm sure we made RaRa an offer, but UGA made him a better offer the we didn't fell it was smart to match.

[Commercecomet24]

The best policy is dont open your mouth about something you dont know a thing about.

Will has turned down money and given his away so other kids will stay here. It?s up to him and his family. And they hate the portal stuff along with anyone else who believes in whats right

Yep, Will has been a good Dawg! I respect him for not taking the offers he's been given.

[msu15]

I actually think Will is a better fit in Barbary's offense than Leach's pure air raid.

[R2Dawg]

Continuity man......

Continuity went out the door with NIL and transfer portal crap; ain't got nothing to do with CZA. Get real.

[Leroy Jenkins]

He is not actively looking and never was. He wants to be here. There are some schools one really big one that has came to him. He loves this program

But the staff did tell some kids they were going to keep the offense in the family

If he's being tampered with outside of the portal and he doesn't report the people doing it then he is complicit and part of the problem.

[William Tecumsah Sherman]

Ashford can?t throw worth a damn.

[viverlibre]

I actually think Will is a better fit in Barbary's offense than Leach's pure air raid.

I wouldn't be surprised either. If a QB can't throw deep in Leach's offense, the offense was going to struggle mightily against better SEC Ds.

[msstate7]

I wouldn't be surprised either. If a QB can't throw deep in Leach's offense, the offense was going to struggle mightily against better SEC Ds.

App st threw it deep a lot. They led the sunbelt in 40 yard pass plays.

[PGHBulldogBG]

Yep, Will has been a good Dawg! I respect him for not taking the offers he's been given.

For sure I definitely respect Will a lot for that. Hopefully we can do what we need to do to keep him. Losing Will and Tulu would be huge losses no matter how you spin it