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01-15-2023, 03:27 PM
#241
Originally Posted by
KB21
More often than not, a run play is a wasted play.
That might be the dumbest thing i've seen posted on this board and that is saying something.
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01-15-2023, 03:32 PM
#242
Originally Posted by
Todd4State
Yeah. Well when you have a lead you run the ball.
Maybe. I looked at the #1 total offense (Tenn) in a contested game (bama). Tenn took the lead on their last drive, so they didn't run the ball to use clock. The final breakdown was 39 runs to 31 rushes... this is 55.7% run heavy. Tenn on the year was 55.3% run heavy
I'm not doing that for them all.
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01-15-2023, 03:39 PM
#243
Originally Posted by
msstate7
Maybe. I looked at the #1 total offense (Tenn) in a contested game (bama). Tenn took the lead on their last drive, so they didn't run the ball to use clock. The final breakdown was 39 runs to 31 rushes... this is 55.7% run heavy. Tenn on the year was 55.3% run heavy
I'm not doing that for them all.
That's very much a vaccum.
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01-15-2023, 03:43 PM
#244
Originally Posted by
Pancho
He also runs a shit program that allows the players to run ruff shod over the managers and other personnel on the field. He had several just quit and refuse to listen to him over this issue. He's pure garbage as a person and is only worried about himself as are the players who are simply worried about the name on the back of the jersey.
No doubt to this. As I've stated in other posts, Ole Miss looks like the NFL or MLB team that just buys players to be buying them with no rhyme or reason. These team usually have zero chemistry and never win squat.
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01-15-2023, 03:47 PM
#245
Originally Posted by
Todd4State
That's very much a vaccum.
#4 ucla, #6 Oregon, #8 OM, and #10 FSU were not pass first teams that salted out wins running the ball. They were run first teams
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01-15-2023, 03:48 PM
#246
Originally Posted by
msstate7
#4 ucla, #6 Oregon, #8 OM, and #10 FSU were not pass first teams that salted out wins running the ball. They were run first teams
Tulane was a run first team.
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01-15-2023, 04:02 PM
#247
Originally Posted by
msstate7
#4 ucla, #6 Oregon, #8 OM, and #10 FSU were not pass first teams that salted out wins running the ball. They were run first teams
Yeah there's a reason every head coach from Saban to nfl say you have to be able to run the ball and stop the run. Being able to do both is critical to being consistently succesful
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01-15-2023, 04:04 PM
#248
Originally Posted by
HancockCountyDog
That might be the dumbest thing i've seen posted on this board and that is saying something.
https://staturdays.com/2019/09/23/sh...-run-the-ball/
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01-15-2023, 04:15 PM
#249
Originally Posted by
KB21
We led the country in pass attempts, but we finished #62 in total offense. We were 79th in yds/play
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01-15-2023, 07:03 PM
#250
I dont think Tulu is leaving. My personal opinion
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01-15-2023, 07:05 PM
#251
Originally Posted by
BuckyIsAB****
I dont think Tulu is leaving. My personal opinion
That would be big
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01-15-2023, 07:06 PM
#252
One dimensional just makes you easier to defend.
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01-15-2023, 07:39 PM
#253
Originally Posted by
msstate7
We led the country in pass attempts, but we finished #62 in total offense. We were 79th in yds/play
There's truth in there somewhere. Based on that set of data, coaches were not throwing the ball enough. Defense was spending too many resources to stop the run making the pass more viable. Now if you go to the other extreme, Leach offense, defenses are spending most of their resources stopping the pass which is why our shotgun draw play was so effective.
I think the happy medium is probably somewhere around 65% passing, but its more about taking what the defense is giving and to KB21s point, most of the time that's a pass.
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01-15-2023, 07:43 PM
#254
Originally Posted by
BuckyIsAB****
I dont think Tulu is leaving. My personal opinion
Deleting his announcement is a good sign I would think.
Everyone wants to be a beast...until its time to do what beasts do.
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01-15-2023, 07:58 PM
#255
Originally Posted by
MrCoachKlein
There's truth in there somewhere. Based on that set of data, coaches were not throwing the ball enough. Defense was spending too many resources to stop the run making the pass more viable. Now if you go to the other extreme, Leach offense, defenses are spending most of their resources stopping the pass which is why our shotgun draw play was so effective.
I think the happy medium is probably somewhere around 65% passing, but its more about taking what the defense is giving and to KB21s point, most of the time that's a pass.
Yep! Plus it's a stretch at best to say that a team that runs it 55% of the time is "run heavy" when they're really balanced.
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01-15-2023, 08:02 PM
#256
Originally Posted by
MrCoachKlein
There's truth in there somewhere. Based on that set of data, coaches were not throwing the ball enough. Defense was spending too many resources to stop the run making the pass more viable. Now if you go to the other extreme, Leach offense, defenses are spending most of their resources stopping the pass which is why our shotgun draw play was so effective.
I think the happy medium is probably somewhere around 65% passing, but its more about taking what the defense is giving and to KB21s point, most of the time that's a pass.
An offense should not be built around the ground game at all.
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01-15-2023, 08:05 PM
#257
Originally Posted by
KB21
An offense should not be built around the ground game at all.
Yeah I remember all those Run-n-Shoot NC's and Super Bowl titles
Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
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01-15-2023, 08:09 PM
#258
Originally Posted by
Todd4State
Yep! Plus it's a stretch at best to say that a team that runs it 55% of the time is "run heavy" when they're really balanced.
I think it is all relative. To the air raid, 55% run is run heavy. But most of the not crazy about air raid O folks have only called for a balanced approach and air raid folks go to extremes and think if you don't throw it 85% then you want to go back to wishbone.
I hope we can get back to some common sense balance on O, it appears that is the direction.
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01-15-2023, 08:10 PM
#259
"Three things can happen when you throw the ball, and two of them are bad." *
Last edited by Leroy Jenkins; 01-15-2023 at 08:45 PM.
Everyone wants to be a beast...until its time to do what beasts do.
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01-15-2023, 08:17 PM
#260
Originally Posted by
Leroy Jenkins
"Three things can happen when you throw the ball, and two of them are bad."
I've always hated that quote. 3 things can happen and 2 of them bad when you run too. Loss of yards, gain yards, fumble.
I think it comes down to making the defense defend the whole field regardless of approach. Advanced metrics favor the pass because most teams spend to many resources defending the run.
I like a pass 'heavy' offense, but I'd rather eat a life jacket than throw against a 3-5 man box again.
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