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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Out of the top 10 total offenses nationally, only 3 were pass heavy
    Yeah. Well when you have a lead you run the ball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    If he's that good- or should I say if Kiffin thinks he is that good- why create a QB controversy unless you are 100% sure that the guy you are bringing in is better. And based on Howard's body of work I don't see how anyone can say that.

    With Ole Miss it's always about the shiny new toy. Same as it is with Kiffin.

    The problem is if Kiffin keeps treating his QB this way word is going to get out and it's going to hurt him in the long run. Portal QB's want to go where they can start- not have to compete.
    I wondered the same, but apparently he will be locked in at OM now unless he wants to sit out a year. Maybe it is just to have a capable backup and replacement down the line for dart. Who knows though

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    I wondered the same, but apparently he will be locked in at OM now unless he wants to sit out a year. Maybe it is just to have a capable backup and replacement down the line for dart. Who knows though
    I'm sure he could get out of there if he gets a degree and goes the grad transfer route. Still would have to compete at least for a year though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    Yeah. Well when you have a lead you run the ball.
    Maybe. I looked at the #1 total offense (Tenn) in a contested game (bama). Tenn took the lead on their last drive, so they didn't run the ball to use clock. The final breakdown was 39 runs to 31 rushes... this is 55.7% run heavy. Tenn on the year was 55.3% run heavy

    I'm not doing that for them all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Maybe. I looked at the #1 total offense (Tenn) in a contested game (bama). Tenn took the lead on their last drive, so they didn't run the ball to use clock. The final breakdown was 39 runs to 31 rushes... this is 55.7% run heavy. Tenn on the year was 55.3% run heavy

    I'm not doing that for them all.
    That's very much a vaccum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pancho View Post
    He also runs a shit program that allows the players to run ruff shod over the managers and other personnel on the field. He had several just quit and refuse to listen to him over this issue. He's pure garbage as a person and is only worried about himself as are the players who are simply worried about the name on the back of the jersey.
    No doubt to this. As I've stated in other posts, Ole Miss looks like the NFL or MLB team that just buys players to be buying them with no rhyme or reason. These team usually have zero chemistry and never win squat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    That's very much a vaccum.
    #4 ucla, #6 Oregon, #8 OM, and #10 FSU were not pass first teams that salted out wins running the ball. They were run first teams

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    #4 ucla, #6 Oregon, #8 OM, and #10 FSU were not pass first teams that salted out wins running the ball. They were run first teams
    Tulane was a run first team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    #4 ucla, #6 Oregon, #8 OM, and #10 FSU were not pass first teams that salted out wins running the ball. They were run first teams
    Yeah there's a reason every head coach from Saban to nfl say you have to be able to run the ball and stop the run. Being able to do both is critical to being consistently succesful

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    Quote Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog View Post
    That might be the dumbest thing i've seen posted on this board and that is saying something.
    https://staturdays.com/2019/09/23/sh...-run-the-ball/

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    We led the country in pass attempts, but we finished #62 in total offense. We were 79th in yds/play

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    I dont think Tulu is leaving. My personal opinion

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB**** View Post
    I dont think Tulu is leaving. My personal opinion
    Deleting his announcement is a good sign I would think.
    Everyone wants to be a beast...until its time to do what beasts do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB**** View Post
    I dont think Tulu is leaving. My personal opinion
    That would be big

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    One dimensional just makes you easier to defend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    We led the country in pass attempts, but we finished #62 in total offense. We were 79th in yds/play
    There's truth in there somewhere. Based on that set of data, coaches were not throwing the ball enough. Defense was spending too many resources to stop the run making the pass more viable. Now if you go to the other extreme, Leach offense, defenses are spending most of their resources stopping the pass which is why our shotgun draw play was so effective.

    I think the happy medium is probably somewhere around 65% passing, but its more about taking what the defense is giving and to KB21s point, most of the time that's a pass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrCoachKlein View Post
    There's truth in there somewhere. Based on that set of data, coaches were not throwing the ball enough. Defense was spending too many resources to stop the run making the pass more viable. Now if you go to the other extreme, Leach offense, defenses are spending most of their resources stopping the pass which is why our shotgun draw play was so effective.

    I think the happy medium is probably somewhere around 65% passing, but its more about taking what the defense is giving and to KB21s point, most of the time that's a pass.
    Yep! Plus it's a stretch at best to say that a team that runs it 55% of the time is "run heavy" when they're really balanced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    Yep! Plus it's a stretch at best to say that a team that runs it 55% of the time is "run heavy" when they're really balanced.
    I think it is all relative. To the air raid, 55% run is run heavy. But most of the not crazy about air raid O folks have only called for a balanced approach and air raid folks go to extremes and think if you don't throw it 85% then you want to go back to wishbone.

    I hope we can get back to some common sense balance on O, it appears that is the direction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrCoachKlein View Post
    There's truth in there somewhere. Based on that set of data, coaches were not throwing the ball enough. Defense was spending too many resources to stop the run making the pass more viable. Now if you go to the other extreme, Leach offense, defenses are spending most of their resources stopping the pass which is why our shotgun draw play was so effective.

    I think the happy medium is probably somewhere around 65% passing, but its more about taking what the defense is giving and to KB21s point, most of the time that's a pass.
    An offense should not be built around the ground game at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KB21 View Post
    An offense should not be built around the ground game at all.
    Yeah I remember all those Run-n-Shoot NC's and Super Bowl titles
    Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is

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