Tulu to the Portal

[Jack Lambert]

Good chance Tulu will come back. Most of the schools that he would be interested in probably have filled up their roster this late in the game.

[Coach34]

I think it comes down to making the defense defend the whole field regardless of approach.

This is what it's all about.

[KB21]

https://theathletic.com/980870/2019/...shared_article

Passing is more efficient than running and leads to more points

The most obvious evidence that passing is more efficient than running is simply that pass attempts average more yards than run attempts. Passing attempts have increased for many reasons, including rules changes that limit contact from defensive backs and protect receivers from vicious hits.

[KB21]

https://www.hawkblogger.com/2017/09/...g-rushing.html

After removing 4th quarter runs, the total number of rushes only explains 2% of the variance in QBR. That?s very small, and means there?s effectively no relationship between how often a team runs and their QBR.

So what does this mean? First, QB play is extremely important to winning games. Second, there is very little to show that a team?s success in the running game influences QB play. And if running doesn?t help you pass, then running does very little to help you win. The conventional wisdom that teams should establish the running game or maintain some kind run/pass balance does not appear to be supported by evidence. Which isn?t to say that teams shouldn?t run. Rushing is helpful in goal line situations and in running out the clock at the end of the game. But in 2016, teams averaged almost 3 more yards per pass attempt (7.1) than per rush attempt (4.3). Meaning that, outside of obvious running situations, teams should likely be looking to pass even more.

[msstate7]

https://theathletic.com/980870/2019/...shared_article

Passing is more efficient than running and leads to more points

The most obvious evidence that passing is more efficient than running is simply that pass attempts average more yards than run attempts. Passing attempts have increased for many reasons, including rules changes that limit contact from defensive backs and protect receivers from vicious hits.

App state was much better than us in yds/play.

We were 11th in sec in yds/play overall, and we were 13th in sec in yds/play conf games. I don't get it... we passed more than anyone in sec and the whole country

[KB21]

https://www.fieldgulls.com/2018/1/3/...-nfl-analytics

[StarkVegasSteve]

App state was much better than us in yds/play.

We were 11th in sec in yds/play overall, and we were 13th in sec in yds/play conf games. I don't get it... we passed more than anyone in sec and the whole country

It is very easy. We had a QB who could not or would not throw deep. When you take that out of a predominantly pass heavy offense then the offense grinds to a halt.

[KB21]

App state was much better than us in yds/play.

We were 11th in sec in yds/play overall, and we were 13th in sec in yds/play conf games. I don't get it... we passed more than anyone in sec and the whole country

How many points did we score against TAMU, and how many did App State score against them?

You are trying to compare what they did vs Sun Belt competition where they had a talent advantage to what we did against sec competition when we had a talent deficiency against most of our opponents.

[msstate7]

It is very easy. We had a QB who could not or would not throw deep. When you take that out of a predominantly pass heavy offense then the offense grinds to a halt.

In top 10 nationally in yds/play, only 3 (Ohio st, Washington, and usc) were pass heavy

[msstate7]

How many points did we score against TAMU, and how many did App State score against them?

You are trying to compare what they did vs Sun Belt competition where they had a talent advantage to what we did against sec competition when we had a talent deficiency against most of our opponents.

Did app st play them with sec talent?

Tenn was the best offense in the sec and the country, and they ran the ball 55% of the time.

[KB21]

delete

[msstate7]

delete

Why do you keep using nfl articles in a college discussion?

[Leroy Jenkins]

I've always hated that quote. 3 things can happen and 2 of them bad when you run too. Loss of yards, gain yards, fumble.

I think it comes down to making the defense defend the whole field regardless of approach. Advanced metrics favor the pass because most teams spend to many resources defending the run.

I like a pass 'heavy' offense, but I'd rather eat a life jacket than throw against a 3-5 man box again.

Get off my lawn.

[Coach34]

https://theathletic.com/980870/2019/...shared_article

Passing is more efficient than running and leads to more points

The most obvious evidence that passing is more efficient than running is simply that pass attempts average more yards than run attempts. Passing attempts have increased for many reasons, including rules changes that limit contact from defensive backs and protect receivers from vicious hits.

Nobody is arguing against throwing the ball. Nobody wants to become Army or Navy. But teams that are balanced are more successful offensively.

Top 5 Scoring teams:

Tenn- 523 runs/422 passes
Ohio State 466 runs/410 passes
USC 473 runs/ 515 passes
Georgia 557 runs/492 passes
Bammer 457 runs/438 passes

Balance is the key

[Homedawg]

Did app st play them with sec talent?

Tenn was the best offense in the sec and the country, and they ran the ball 55% of the time.

I hate it when facts get in the way of a good argument!!!

[Coach34]

In top 10 nationally in yds/play, only 3 (Ohio st, Washington, and usc) were pass heavy

in a conference that doesnt play defense

[Really Clark?]

How many points did we score against TAMU, and how many did App State score against them?

You are trying to compare what they did vs Sun Belt competition where they had a talent advantage to what we did against sec competition when we had a talent deficiency against most of our opponents.

App St also score 61 vs another P5 school. So with talent disadvantages they average 39 points per game. Add in his 2 CMU years that's 4 P5 games where he averaged 30.75 points per game. With noticeable talent disadvantage.

[msstate7]

Nobody is arguing against throwing the ball. Nobody wants to become Army or Navy. But teams that are balanced are more successful offensively.

Top 5 Scoring teams:

Tenn- 523 runs/422 passes
Ohio State 466 runs/410 passes
USC 473 runs/ 515 passes
Georgia 557 runs/492 passes
Bammer 457 runs/438 passes

Balance is the key

Your last sentence nails it. Around 55/45 tops either way should be the goal. The defense will be off guard

[MrCoachKlein]

https://theathletic.com/980870/2019/...shared_article

Passing is more efficient than running and leads to more points

The most obvious evidence that passing is more efficient than running is simply that pass attempts average more yards than run attempts. Passing attempts have increased for many reasons, including rules changes that limit contact from defensive backs and protect receivers from vicious hits.

I'm with you, but there's still something lost when you go full passing.

Some things that analytics can't analyze:

Imposing your will on the defense. There's something to be said from a toughness standpoint of telling them you're gonna run them over then doing it.

It helps your OL in 2 ways. 1 they're typically bigger, so they can beat up the DL going forward vs a passive passing set. This wears out the D in the 4th. 2: It changes the way the d line plays. If they 'pin ears back' and run upfield they'll give up a huge run. Without that threat they pass rush every play.

It's demoralizing. 70 yard pass play feels like 'yeah well they got lucky'. Giving up 10 7 yard runs in a row feels like you're getting your ass kicked.

[MrCoachKlein]

Get off my lawn.

Lmao. Made me want to go watch Grand Torino