What some of you don't get

[RisperDawg]

Most of us told everyone on this board Multiple Times when we hired Leach that we would be right here where we are today. Obviously, no one expected Leach to pass away. Most of us figured he'd be here 5 years at max and then we would be revamping the offense. Well, it's happened just like we said it would. That offense was run by one person in the world. MSU recruits players that spend their entire lives running a run spread type offense.
Had Mullen been a better play caller and not scared to death, we would have played in the SECCG a couple times with his offense. And no, I'm not saying run the Mullen offense.

I'm sorry, i know most posters chose to keep moving and not engage with this nonsense, but I just can't. You were right about your ultimate proposed outcome, so you called it? Lol. What you posted is like claiming Earth will be uninhabitable in five years due to nuclear war. I mean it's obvious, right? Then we get blindsided by a Texas-sized asteroid and you say, "See? I told you so." Insane.

Neither you nor I nor anyone else knows where we would be with CML in year five, and we unfortunately never will.

[Coursesuper]

Correct when chuck was an assistant. Before he ever went to neshoba to be head coach. That was early 80's and it was a short stay

Yep I played for Chuck in 80 and 81.

[R2Dawg]

My concern is that you are 100% right. This would be a waste of a season, especially considering the defense should be really good and the schedule is way more favorable. We have a legit shot at 10 wins and after next year, we lose a ton of players that will have used up their extra covid year.

Next year has the potential to be a 10 win season - i don't want to go through a 2018 or 2020 season while we adjust our entire offense.

True and I understand but we did a worse change when we brought Leach in and it didn't seem to matter?

That is one reason why I didn't like it 3 years ago, too big a change that puts us in a bad spot twice - then and now after he is gone. Our goose was cooked on your concern the day we went that direction 3 years ago.

We are still going to throw the ball, we still need a good QB and WR along with other positions. I don't think much has changed there. How they are coached and plays - yeah will be different but different ain't all bad.

[dawgday166]

True and I understand but we did a worse change when we brought Leach in and it didn't see to matter?

That is one reason why I didn't like it 3 years ago, too big a change that puts us in a bad spot twice - then and now after he is gone. Our goose was cooked on your concern the day we went that direction 3 years ago.

3 years ago we were in a hole personnel and culture wise and needed a rebuild. Then was the time to overhaul things and start from scratch. (Not saying our current situation is starting from scratch cause I really don't know yet).

Now we have a good culture, a LOT of experience returning so hopefully this won't be a big adjustment for the offensive personnel we have and acquire via the portal. Sorta like 2018 was (not quite but similar).

[R2Dawg]

3 years ago we were in a hole personnel and culture wise and needed a rebuild. Then was the time to overhaul things and start from scratch. (Not saying our current situation is starting from scratch cause I really don't know yet).

Now we have a good culture, a LOT of experience returning so hopefully this won't be a big adjustment for the offensive personnel we have and acquire via the portal. Sorta like 2018 was (not quite but similar).

Agree but culture got nothing to do with type O. We could have changed the culture and done whatever on O. I don't think the change for us now will be that bad.

Those saying OL, we did OK last year after losing Cross and we lose NFL OL every year it seems. We'll be fine.

[MrCoachKlein]

We shall see but for someone who's responsible for W's and L's, well trying to implement a completely different offense without the kind of personnel you need sounds like a recipe for disaster. I guess that remains to be seen but you can't convince me we couldn't have gotten someone to tweak and upgrade what we had which I think would've yielded positive results.

The only personnel that he needs that we don't have are TEs. That was going to be the case with any OC we hired.

[dawgday166]

Agree but culture got nothing to do with type O. We could have changed the culture and done whatever on O.

That's what I was saying. Doing "whatever on O" then was low impact. Doing "whatever on O" now (depending on what "whatever" is) might cost us a really good season. Whatever in 2018 cost us a really good season.

[MrCoachKlein]

That's what I was saying. Doing "whatever on O" then was low impact. Doing "whatever on O" now (depending on what "whatever" is) might cost us a really good season. Whatever in 2018 cost us a really good season.

I think it could have, but we got an OC that only needs TEs. Our OL arguably run blocks better than pass, Will can run RPOs and isn't required to run the ball in this offense.

[Cowbell]

Bumping because some of our new posters need a reminder.

Arnette was responsible for more wins last season than our OC....prove me wrong.

[Pancho]

Cowbell gets it. It's remarkable what a stiff D and better than avg Special Teams can do in college football. Let the guys who want to play for the name on the back of the jersey split and let CZA run this show.