Our new OC

[Coach34]

And neither did CML. Maybe it's bc of Jimmy's and Joe's ....

Leach's offense didnt work at State. Leach was 13th, 9th, and 8th in the SEC in Scoring. I'm trying to understand the logic of some of these people. Makes no sense

Here's some reality:

The "Holloway up the middle" offense was better than any offense Leach had at State

[Jarius]

Leach's offense didnt work at State. Leach was 13th, 9th, and 8th in the SEC in Scoring. I'm trying to understand the logic of some of these people. Makes no sense

Here's some reality:

The "Holloway up the middle" offense was better than any offense Leach had at State

It’s unbelievable. They keep giving the wins to the offense as if Arnett and the defense didn’t repeatedly save our ass during that entire tenure. Anyone who thinks we are going to find a magic offense to consistently beat Alabama and Georgia is kidding themselves, but this gives us a chance to maximize what we are able to recruit offensively.

[Commercecomet24]

In this day and age you have to have a very good pass game to be successful, no matter what shape or form that is. Barbays offense gives us a very effective pass game that should be more explosive. He runs the ball more, yes, but his passing game has been excellent.

[HoopsDawg]

Yeah I like what i see in this guy. Seems very balanced and doesn't run the qb. And his offenses are very efficient.

I think you need to run the QB though. Especially in a run heavy offense

[Jarius]

In this day and age you have to have a very good pass game to be successful, no matter what shape or form that is. Barbays offense gives us a very effective pass game that should be more explosive. He runs the ball more, yes, but his passing game has been excellent.

This is the best thing that could have happened for Will Rogers. He desperately needed a running game to take the pressure off of him from having to carry the offense. He’s not built to be a guy to throw it 60 times a game and have everything on his shoulders. He was at his best when we ran the football effectively. I suspect he will be ok in this offense.

[MrCoachKlein]

This is the best thing that could have happened for Will Rogers. He desperately needed a running game to take the pressure off of him from having to carry the offense. He’s not built to be a guy to throw it 60 times a game and have everything on his shoulders. He was at his best when we ran the football effectively. I suspect he will be ok in this offense.

I wonder if Will has the arm for all of the deep shots Barbay calls.

[HoopsDawg]

This is the best thing that could have happened for Will Rogers. He desperately needed a running game to take the pressure off of him from having to carry the offense. He’s not built to be a guy to throw it 60 times a game and have everything on his shoulders. He was at his best when we ran the football effectively. I suspect he will be ok in this offense.

I think the Leach Air Raid was the perfect offense for Will.

[Prediction? Pain.]

Leach's offense didnt work at State. Leach was 13th, 9th, and 8th in the SEC in Scoring. I'm trying to understand the logic of some of these people. Makes no sense

Here's some reality:

The "Holloway up the middle" offense was better than any offense Leach had at State

If by "didn't work," you mean "was in the top third of the SEC in scoring offense, total offense, and 3rd down conversion % in SEC games in Year 2," then you're absolutely right.

Yeah, we dropped off some in Year 3, but we were weren't so bad that it "didn't work." I posted a bunch of stuff yesterday about how we were still roughly at or just below middle-of-the-pack in the SEC in several metrics.

Also, "Holloway up the middle" scoring offense in SEC games: 6th in the SEC. Airbone 2021 scoring offense in SEC games: 5th in the SEC.

But that last point is misleading. Dak's senior-season offense was better than Will's sophomore-season offense in many ways. 16th in F+ offense vs. 27th. Granted, the 27th ranking in Leach's second season was higher than every offense Mullen fielded at State other than '14 and '15, but whatever.

No need to bash Leach at this point. Arnett's got his man and I'm stoked to see what he does here.

[Jarius]

I think the Leach Air Raid was the perfect offense for Will.

He needs a running game that didn’t exist in that offense. He can’t be expected to carry everything. He’s not that talented.

[Santiago]

Seems to be a Jim McElwain disciple. Mac didn't do too hot at FL ... in 2015 FL was 12th in SEC in Total O, in 2016 they were last. I'll wait and see but right now I'm thinking this is a BIG change in philosophy and we sho ain't running 52 times against a GA & Bama and winning a football game. And to add to this ... there's a reason Saban got away from Mac's style of offense.

We'll see what happens but right now I don't think we have the personnel to make the transition well next year unless we really hit the portal hard.

To be fair, Florida is chewing up several coaches these days where they do not look at Florida how they were prior. They have more issues going on there and it spans several coaches.

[dawgday166]

If by "didn't work," you mean "was in the top third of the SEC in scoring offense, total offense, and 3rd down conversion % in SEC games in Year 2," then you're absolutely right.

Yeah, we dropped off some in Year 3, but we were weren't so bad that it "didn't work." I posted a bunch of stuff yesterday about how we were still roughly at or just below middle-of-the-pack in the SEC in several metrics.

Also, "Holloway up the middle" scoring offense in SEC games: 6th in the SEC. Airbone 2021 scoring offense in SEC games: 5th in the SEC.

But that last point is misleading. Dak's senior-season offense was better than Will's sophomore-season offense in many ways. 16th in F+ offense vs. 27th. Granted, the 27th ranking in Leach's second season was higher than every offense Mullen fielded at State other than '14 and '15, but whatever.

No need to bash Leach at this point. Arnett's got his man and I'm stoked to see what he does here.

Naw man ... Leach sucked and his offense was never gonna work here. IMO ... Will got gun shy and was in too big a hurry to get rid of the ball this year vs last year. JMHO tho. Long term ... I think Leach's offense would've been pretty good but ... whatever.

You got any advanced stats on new guy? Surely you ain't got nothing else to do today at work do you LOL. Would appreciate it if you took the time to throw some out here too.

[Coach34]

If by "didn't work," you mean "was in the top third of the SEC in scoring offense, total offense, and 3rd down conversion % in SEC games in Year 2," then you're absolutely right.

We were 9th in the SEC in Scoring O in Y2 of Leach. That's the bottom line. So no- that's "not working" to most people.

2015's Holloway up the middle was 5th in the SEC. So Holloway Up the Middle > Any Leach O at State

[Coach34]

You got any advanced stats on new guy? Surely you ain't got nothing else to do today at work do you LOL. Would appreciate it if you took the time to throw some out here too.

Bartoo has tweeted a bunch of those out showing we have hired one of the OC's of the last 13 years

[dawgday166]

Bartoo has tweeted a bunch of those out showing we have hired one of the OC's of the last 13 years

Bartoo thought JoMo was a HR hire. I trust Pain way more than Bartoo.

[msstate7]

Bartoo thought JoMo was a HR hire. I trust Pain way more than Bartoo.

Pain liked Moorhead too

[BlackSailsDawg]

In this day and age you have to have a very good pass game to be successful, no matter what shape or form that is. Barbays offense gives us a very effective pass game that should be more explosive. He runs the ball more, yes, but his passing game has been excellent.

So long as we can recruit for it.

[dawgday166]

Pain liked Moorhead too

Ok ... didn't remember that. Still like Pain's stats tho. Not a huge Bartoo fan.

[msstate7]

Ok ... didn't remember that. Still like Pain's stats tho. Not a huge Bartoo fan.

Pain is great at the advanced stats. I think sometimes he puts too much trust in them though

[dawgday166]

Pain is great at the advanced stats. I think sometimes he puts too much trust in them though

Bartoo sure enough does.

[Coach34]

Bartoo thought JoMo was a HR hire. I trust Pain way more than Bartoo.

The stats are the stats.