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    Our new OC

    2022 App State:

    23rd in the country in Scoring
    21st in the country in rushing
    48th in the country in passing

    That's a good offense folks

    2021 Central Michigan:

    35th in Scoring
    51st in rushing
    36th in Pass O

    Solid hire
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    Yeah I like what i see in this guy. Seems very balanced and doesn't run the qb. And his offenses are very efficient.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Commercecomet24 View Post
    Yeah I like what i see in this guy. Seems very balanced and doesn't run the qb. And his offenses are very efficient.
    I don't...With this wasted season coming up (JoMo's 1st basically) I just hope we can have the same level of success with OM as Jo did..maybe we can win a couple more egg bowls before we have a regime change..

    Very down on this hire and Arnett by extension...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mo7888 View Post
    I don't...With this wasted season coming up (JoMo's 1st basically) I just hope we can have the same level of success with OM as Jo did..maybe we can win a couple more egg bowls before we have a regime change..

    Very down on this hire and Arnett by extension...
    Shame on Arnett for hiring a top OC the last 2 seasons
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    Seems to be a Jim McElwain disciple. Mac didn't do too hot at FL ... in 2015 FL was 12th in SEC in Total O, in 2016 they were last. I'll wait and see but right now I'm thinking this is a BIG change in philosophy and we sho ain't running 52 times against a GA & Bama and winning a football game. And to add to this ... there's a reason Saban got away from Mac's style of offense.

    We'll see what happens but right now I don't think we have the personnel to make the transition well next year unless we really hit the portal hard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mo7888 View Post
    I don't...With this wasted season coming up (JoMo's 1st basically) I just hope we can have the same level of success with OM as Jo did..maybe we can win a couple more egg bowls before we have a regime change..

    Very down on this hire and Arnett by extension...
    Well we'll just have to agree to disagree. I loved Mike Leach and always have but we needed more balance and even Leach knew that. This is a good hire, but I respect your opinion and let's see how it plays out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mo7888 View Post
    I don't...With this wasted season coming up (JoMo's 1st basically) I just hope we can have the same level of success with OM as Jo did..maybe we can win a couple more egg bowls before we have a regime change..

    Very down on this hire and Arnett by extension...
    JoMo was stubborn and hardheaded. Let's hold off on the comparison until we actually see the product on the field.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dawgday166 View Post
    Seems to be a Jim McElwain disciple. Mac didn't do too hot at FL ... in 2015 FL was 12th in SEC in Total O, in 2016 they were last. I'll wait and see but right now I'm thinking this is a BIG change in philosophy and we sho ain't running 52 times against a GA & Bama and winning a football game. And to add to this ... there's a reason Saban got away from Mac's style of offense.

    We'll see what happens but right now I don't think we have the personnel to make the transition well next year unless we really hit the portal hard.
    Well, ain't nobody been doing too hot at Florida lately. So....

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrapGame View Post
    Well, ain't nobody been doing too hot at Florida lately. So....
    lol yeah outisde of ******* year with trask and pitts florida offenses haven't burned it up since Urban left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrapGame View Post
    Well, ain't nobody been doing too hot at Florida lately. So....
    Mullen actually did alright till he blew up his last year. Didn't beat Ga but nobody does. Right now I'm leaning towards I'd rather have hired Mullen back. I'll be open minded and wait & see.

    ETA: And Mullen took Bama to the brink his last year at FL too ... before the rest of season crashed and burned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    Shame on Arnett for hiring a top OC the last 2 seasons
    Oh please...we've seen this offense before and it doesn't work here...it's not an awful floor...we should do jomo numbers but it's an abysmal ceiling.... you'll be whining for something else (run centric) in two years and you know it..

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    Quote Originally Posted by dawgday166 View Post
    Seems to be a Jim McElwain disciple. Mac didn't do too hot at FL ... in 2015 FL was 12th in SEC in Total O, in 2016 they were last. I'll wait and see but right now I'm thinking this is a BIG change in philosophy and we sho ain't running 52 times against a GA & Bama and winning a football game. And to add to this ... there's a reason Saban got away from Mac's style of offense.

    We'll see what happens but right now I don't think we have the personnel to make the transition well next year unless we really hit the portal hard.
    A lot to be concerned about. But he will have his shot and my support.

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    So regarding app state, what does their talent look like compared to the rest of the sun belt? Is he doing less with more there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrapGame View Post
    JoMo was stubborn and hardheaded. Let's hold off on the comparison until we actually see the product on the field.
    2 years from now, when the vets are gone. We are going to see what's up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Commercecomet24 View Post
    Well we'll just have to agree to disagree. I loved Mike Leach and always have but we needed more balance and even Leach knew that. This is a good hire, but I respect your opinion and let's see how it plays out.
    ML absolutely knew that...you could see it in his recruiting and we were heading in that direction...we should have continued in that direction too... I'm gonna say 7 wins next season..

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    Quote Originally Posted by DEDawg View Post
    So regarding app state, what does their talent look like compared to the rest of the sun belt? Is he doing less with more there?
    Check his losses out. He has some under 300 yds/game too. Not sure how the overall competition really compares tho. Hope I'm wrong but this do feel sorta like a JoMo hire to me some.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrapGame View Post
    Well, ain't nobody been doing too hot at Florida lately. So....
    Weren't they in the seccg thecseason before last?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    2022 App State:

    23rd in the country in Scoring
    21st in the country in rushing
    48th in the country in passing

    That's a good offense folks

    2021 Central Michigan:

    35th in Scoring
    51st in rushing
    36th in Pass O

    Solid hire
    This is a hell of a hire by Arnett. The people in here complaining about how he has run his search are clueless. He just made a bunch of really good hires. Our future is as bright as it has ever been at Mississippi State.

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    He?s a McElwain disciple about like Riley and Dykes are Leach disciples.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarius View Post
    This is a hell of a hire by Arnett. The people in here complaining about how he has run his search are clueless. He just made a bunch of really good hires. Our future is as bright as it has ever been at Mississippi State.
    Lol... Every hire so far was lateral at best with the exception of Turner.... and we've seen this Offense before and it didn't work with a blue blood but you think it's gonna work here... uh huh...

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