Our new OC

[Coach34]

2022 App State:

23rd in the country in Scoring
21st in the country in rushing
48th in the country in passing

That's a good offense folks

2021 Central Michigan:

35th in Scoring
51st in rushing
36th in Pass O

Solid hire

[Commercecomet24]

Yeah I like what i see in this guy. Seems very balanced and doesn't run the qb. And his offenses are very efficient.

[mo7888]

Yeah I like what i see in this guy. Seems very balanced and doesn't run the qb. And his offenses are very efficient.

I don't...With this wasted season coming up (JoMo's 1st basically) I just hope we can have the same level of success with OM as Jo did..maybe we can win a couple more egg bowls before we have a regime change..

Very down on this hire and Arnett by extension...

[Coach34]

I don't...With this wasted season coming up (JoMo's 1st basically) I just hope we can have the same level of success with OM as Jo did..maybe we can win a couple more egg bowls before we have a regime change..

Very down on this hire and Arnett by extension...

Shame on Arnett for hiring a top OC the last 2 seasons

[Commercecomet24]

I don't...With this wasted season coming up (JoMo's 1st basically) I just hope we can have the same level of success with OM as Jo did..maybe we can win a couple more egg bowls before we have a regime change..

Very down on this hire and Arnett by extension...

Well we'll just have to agree to disagree. I loved Mike Leach and always have but we needed more balance and even Leach knew that. This is a good hire, but I respect your opinion and let's see how it plays out.

[TrapGame]

I don't...With this wasted season coming up (JoMo's 1st basically) I just hope we can have the same level of success with OM as Jo did..maybe we can win a couple more egg bowls before we have a regime change..

Very down on this hire and Arnett by extension...

JoMo was stubborn and hardheaded. Let's hold off on the comparison until we actually see the product on the field.

[BlackSailsDawg]

JoMo was stubborn and hardheaded. Let's hold off on the comparison until we actually see the product on the field.

2 years from now, when the vets are gone. We are going to see what's up.

[dawgday166]

Seems to be a Jim McElwain disciple. Mac didn't do too hot at FL ... in 2015 FL was 12th in SEC in Total O, in 2016 they were last. I'll wait and see but right now I'm thinking this is a BIG change in philosophy and we sho ain't running 52 times against a GA & Bama and winning a football game. And to add to this ... there's a reason Saban got away from Mac's style of offense.

We'll see what happens but right now I don't think we have the personnel to make the transition well next year unless we really hit the portal hard.

[TrapGame]

Seems to be a Jim McElwain disciple. Mac didn't do too hot at FL ... in 2015 FL was 12th in SEC in Total O, in 2016 they were last. I'll wait and see but right now I'm thinking this is a BIG change in philosophy and we sho ain't running 52 times against a GA & Bama and winning a football game. And to add to this ... there's a reason Saban got away from Mac's style of offense.

We'll see what happens but right now I don't think we have the personnel to make the transition well next year unless we really hit the portal hard.

Well, ain't nobody been doing too hot at Florida lately. So....

[Commercecomet24]

Well, ain't nobody been doing too hot at Florida lately. So....

lol yeah outisde of ******* year with trask and pitts florida offenses haven't burned it up since Urban left.

[dawgday166]

Well, ain't nobody been doing too hot at Florida lately. So....

Mullen actually did alright till he blew up his last year. Didn't beat Ga but nobody does. Right now I'm leaning towards I'd rather have hired Mullen back. I'll be open minded and wait & see.

ETA: And Mullen took Bama to the brink his last year at FL too ... before the rest of season crashed and burned.

[BlackSailsDawg]

Seems to be a Jim McElwain disciple. Mac didn't do too hot at FL ... in 2015 FL was 12th in SEC in Total O, in 2016 they were last. I'll wait and see but right now I'm thinking this is a BIG change in philosophy and we sho ain't running 52 times against a GA & Bama and winning a football game. And to add to this ... there's a reason Saban got away from Mac's style of offense.

We'll see what happens but right now I don't think we have the personnel to make the transition well next year unless we really hit the portal hard.

A lot to be concerned about. But he will have his shot and my support.

[Santiago]

Seems to be a Jim McElwain disciple. Mac didn't do too hot at FL ... in 2015 FL was 12th in SEC in Total O, in 2016 they were last. I'll wait and see but right now I'm thinking this is a BIG change in philosophy and we sho ain't running 52 times against a GA & Bama and winning a football game. And to add to this ... there's a reason Saban got away from Mac's style of offense.

We'll see what happens but right now I don't think we have the personnel to make the transition well next year unless we really hit the portal hard.

To be fair, Florida is chewing up several coaches these days where they do not look at Florida how they were prior. They have more issues going on there and it spans several coaches.

[mo7888]

Shame on Arnett for hiring a top OC the last 2 seasons

Oh please...we've seen this offense before and it doesn't work here...it's not an awful floor...we should do jomo numbers but it's an abysmal ceiling.... you'll be whining for something else (run centric) in two years and you know it..

[Hot Rock]

This is what all the run more people wanted and it still has passing efficient stats.

For the Air Raid lovers, including me. Leach was the only guy running it successfully the way he ran it. Everyone had changed it to be their own version. Even he was trying to get more mobile at QB and run more. What people had missed that he was constantly tweaking it himself.

You aren't getting Leach back, this looks like one of the best not so young OC's out there. A guy with experience and up ang coming, not a retread. Passing efficiency off the charts with a run game to boot.

Good hire by Arnett in my humble not so expert opinion.

[DEDawg]

So regarding app state, what does their talent look like compared to the rest of the sun belt? Is he doing less with more there?

[dawgday166]

So regarding app state, what does their talent look like compared to the rest of the sun belt? Is he doing less with more there?

Check his losses out. He has some under 300 yds/game too. Not sure how the overall competition really compares tho. Hope I'm wrong but this do feel sorta like a JoMo hire to me some.

[CoachT14]

Check his losses out. He has some under 300 yds/game too. Not sure how the overall competition really compares tho. Hope I'm wrong but this do feel sorta like a JoMo hire to me some.

This is nothing like Jomo. Jomo was the beneficiary of talent advantages everywhere he went.

[dawgday166]

This is nothing like Jomo. Jomo was the beneficiary of talent advantages everywhere he went.

Good point.

[mo7888]

Well we'll just have to agree to disagree. I loved Mike Leach and always have but we needed more balance and even Leach knew that. This is a good hire, but I respect your opinion and let's see how it plays out.

ML absolutely knew that...you could see it in his recruiting and we were heading in that direction...we should have continued in that direction too... I'm gonna say 7 wins next season..