-
Originally Posted by
confucius say
Well mullen had an all pro qb and the sec all team leading rusher for a qb. Leach never had anything close to an nfl qb here. Give leach Dak.
Point is. We need a big time qb regardless of system.
I really wish Locke would have stayed..
-
Originally Posted by
Coach34
Leach SEC Scoring:
13th in 2020
9th in 2021
8th in 2022
Mullen:
2017- 7th
2016- 7th
2015- 5th
2014- 2nd
I clearly said the 2nd half of Mullen's tenure. Mullen took over a rebuild and didnt have the luxury of the portal and such. Y2 Mullen and Y2 Leach are Apples/Oranges
So are years 6-9 of dan and 1-3 of leach. It's a bad comparison.
-
Originally Posted by
DownwardDawg
Will is the starter at State next year. Non topic
If so the offense will be very limited
-
Originally Posted by
ZedFedder
Outside of Arnett landing Kingsbury, many of you were determined to be "meh" on this after Briles. What else do you want the guy to do? Great job, Arnett.
I like it long term.
Next year not so much unless he finds a qb
-
Originally Posted by
Coach34
Leach had the chance to portal Rogers the last 2 years and didnt do it. He had who he wanted
Except when we brought Jack Abraham in to start in 2021.
-
Originally Posted by
Coach34
Leach had the chance to portal Rogers the last 2 years and didnt do it. He had who he wanted
That has to do with coaching decisions regarding personnel. Not scheme. The underlying debate was over scheme.
The truth is both schemes can be successful if the right qb is in place. It's 75% about the qb.
-
Originally Posted by
confucius say
That has to do with coaching decisions regarding personnel. Not scheme. The underlying debate was over scheme.
The truth is both schemes can be successful if the right qb is in place. It's 75% about the qb.
This offense is centered around the HB and the OL, the QB is more of a game manager which actually plays to Rogers strength in my opinion.
He won't be asked to carry the team, and I think he can be careful with the ball. This could be good for Will, except for stats, but overall it could be really good for him.
-
Originally Posted by
TNDawg35
I really wish Locke would have stayed..
Me too. He may have been playing for State sooner rather than later.
-
Originally Posted by
HancockCountyDog
This offense is centered around the HB and the OL, the QB is more of a game manager which actually plays to Rogers strength in my opinion.
He won't be asked to carry the team, and I think he can be careful with the ball. This could be good for Will, except for stats, but overall it could be really good for him.
If we are bringing in a scheme where our success is predicated on having OL better than the SEC DL we will face then we are screwed.
-
Originally Posted by
confucius say
If we are bringing in a scheme where our success is predicated on having OL better than the SEC DL we will face then we are screwed.
They beat A&M by running it 52 times and completing 15 passes.
This offense runs the damn ball.
-
Leach was about to make adjustments. Look at the QBs he was after. He realized you gotta be able to do things other than throw it 50x
-
Originally Posted by
HancockCountyDog
They beat A&M by running it 52 times and completing 15 passes.
This offense runs the damn ball.
That offense went 25 of 36 for 361 and 6TD passes in taking UNC to OT (while also running for 288)
It went 40/53 for 395 and 3 TDs when the run game got shut down against James Madison. The offense is variable - and probably the closest to balanced as any we have ever run (30 passes/40 runs a game in '22)
"After dealing with Ole Miss for over a year," he said, "I've learned to expect their leadership to do and say things that the leadership at other Division I schools would never consider doing and to justify their actions by reminding themselves that "We're Ole Miss.""
- Tom Mars, Esq. 4.9.18
-
Not to derail this thread too much, but Brandon Streeter was just fired at Clemson. If we have an offensive analyst position we may want to see if he'd be interested for a year.
-
Originally Posted by
BrunswickDawg
That offense went 25 of 36 for 361 and 6TD passes in taking UNC to OT (while also running for 288)
It went 40/53 for 395 and 3 TDs when the run game got shut down against James Madison. The offense is variable - and probably the closest to balanced as any we have ever run (30 passes/40 runs a game in '22)
Yeah he's very diverse and actually calls plays based on what the defense is giving. I like the fact Barbay games plan and calls plays to attack what the weakness of the defense is instead of just running the same offense week in and week out. He showed he can win running or throwing or both, now that's true balance.
-
Originally Posted by
Commercecomet24
Yeah he's very diverse and actually calls plays based on what the defense is giving. I like the fact Barbay games plan and calls plays to attack what the weakness of the defense is instead of just running the same offense week in and week out. He showed he can win running or throwing or both, now that's true balance.
With Leach every defense did the same thing so there really wasn't a lot of game planning.
-
____________
?Six pack - a bunch of circle jerking snowflakes?
-DangerDawg
-
Originally Posted by
Todd4State
With Leach every defense did the same thing so there really wasn't a lot of game planning.
That's not true. Everyone tried the drop 8 after Arky stopped us with it, then we started (painfully) beating it with long, boring short passes. After that teams played us different albeit still mostly zone unless they couldn't stop us. In 21 when we forced man Will killed them over the top. I think that was the main difference in his 21 and 22 season. Seemed like he couldn't do it in 22 like he did in 21. Whether that's an injury, no Polk or whatever is for others to argue about.
-
This is a great hire. Young fresh ideas. I like that Arnett has a vision of where were are going and is making it happen.
-
-
01-12-2023, 08:39 PM
#100
Originally Posted by
William Tecumsah Sherman
Leach was about to make adjustments. Look at the QBs he was after. He realized you gotta be able to do things other than throw it 50x
Which further reiterates why CZA shouldn't have destroyed the whole offensive scheme and staff.........
"The QB and the receiver weren't on the same page there, but hey its only week eleven". (Jack Cristil)
Posting Permissions
- You may not post new threads
- You may not post replies
- You may not post attachments
- You may not edit your posts
-
Forum Rules
Disclaimer: Elitedawgs is a privately owned and operated forum that is managed by alumni of Mississippi State University. This website is in no way affiliated with the Mississippi State University, The Southeastern Conference (SEC) or the National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA). The views and opinions expressed herein are strictly those of the post author and may not reflect the views of other members of this forum or elitedawgs.com. The interactive nature of the elitedawgs.com forums makes it impossible for elitedawgs.com to assume responsibility for any of the content posted at this site. Ideas, thoughts, suggestion, comments, opinions, advice and observations made by participants at elitedawgs.com are not endorsed by elitedawgs.com
Elitedawgs: A Mississippi State Fan Forum, Mississippi State Football, Mississippi State Basketball, Mississippi State Baseball, Mississippi State Athletics. Mississippi State message board.