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Originally Posted by
BuckyIsAB****
We need WRs. We will be right back to when we raised hell about not having any under Mullen. We have 2 right now that are reliable game to game. We need more than just TE.
Our receivers had the lowest drop rate in the conference. What we need is a quarterback, as much as you don’t want to admit it.
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Originally Posted by
Leeshouldveflanked
It?s amazing how our NIL doubled within a few weeks of Cohen leaving.
Lol...
Let it go! Let it go! - Some princess from Frozen
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Originally Posted by
Jarius
Our receivers had the lowest drop rate in the conference. What we need is a quarterback, as much as you don’t want to admit it.
We need both. But we don't need to take guys at those positions just to have a body. We need to take guys we believe can come in and contribute.
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Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
We need both. But we don't need to take guys at those positions just to have a body. We need to take guys we believe can come in and contribute.
We have a quarterback that would be playing at an extremely mediocre P5 program or higher level G5 program if he left Mississippi State. We need a quarterback that is good enough to play in this league a lot more than we need anything else on offense. It’s painfully obvious.
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Originally Posted by
Jarius
Our offense has sucked against anyone worth a shit and Arnett saw it up close and personal. He?s trying to fix that side of the ball, because it?s broken.
Yeah but fixing it didn't necessarily mean you had to burn it to the ground. I think most here would agree that a few tweaks would've prolly been sufficient.
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Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
1. Portal opens back up after spring ball. We're not finding any more impact players this late in the juncture. I do agree with you on TEs. We're going to have to grab one after spring ball or move Harmon because WE ARE NOT MOVING ROBINSON TO TE. I know you didn't say it, but I want to cut that off before someone mentions it.
2. Other schools offering our guys money is going to happen 365 days a year now. Just like I know we're putting those same feelers out to kids. Everyone is doing it so you have to accept that. Agree on needing an OC hire ASAP. It's taking far too long and shows Arnett's inexperience in the big chair.
3. Turner is meh, Friend is a decent hire, and I have no clue why we brought back Bumphis. At least Friend and Turner have experience and recruiting connections in the area. None are upgrades over their predecessors though. It will be paramount to keep Washington and hire an OC with Texas connections. We can't lose that pipeline. We've already lost Louisiana and some of Georgia. We can't lose Texas as well.
Who have we signed from Texas lately that has been a starter or impact player since Ross many moons ago?
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Originally Posted by
Jarius
We have a quarterback that would be playing at an extremely mediocre P5 program or higher level G5 program if he left Mississippi State. We need a quarterback that is good enough to play in this league a lot more than we need anything else on offense. It’s painfully obvious.
Well he has another team much bigger than that, that wants him sooo...
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Originally Posted by
Homedawg
Well he has another team much bigger than that, that wants him sooo...
Cool. Good luck to him. He hasn’t been playing well here at all.
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Originally Posted by
Homedawg
Well he has another team much bigger than that, that wants him sooo...
I can confirm this as well. As much as some on here hate the idea of another year of Will, there are sec and other power 5 programs that would take him today.
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Originally Posted by
Jarius
Cool. Good luck to him. He hasn’t been playing well here at all.
Agree with you 100% on the offence. But that's a stretch.
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Originally Posted by
Jarius
We have a quarterback that would be playing at an extremely mediocre P5 program or higher level G5 program if he left Mississippi State. We need a quarterback that is good enough to play in this league a lot more than we need anything else on offense. It’s painfully obvious.
I'm not that out on Will. I do believe we need to bring in competition, but quality competition. If you could somehow get in the game with Sanders at OSU that would be perfect. It would allow Parson to sit for a year and then get ready. If we bring in a young guy then we risk losing him and Will. Outside of Sanders though there's not really anyone in the portal now that is enticing. Whatever happens at Bama with Ty Simpson will be worth monitoring, although I doubt Saban is dumb enough to name a starter in the spring and risk one of them transferring. I'd also monitor what happens at Georgia with Stockton and Vandagriff as well as at Miami and Tennessee
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Originally Posted by
Cowbell
I can confirm this as well. As much as some on here hate the idea of another year of Will, there are sec and other power 5 programs that would take him today.
And we would be left with NOTHING if he left. We would be starting a not fully healthy TRUE FRESHMAN who has no backup. I don't like our odds in that situation.
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Originally Posted by
Cowbell
Agree with you 100% on the offence. But that's a stretch.
It’s not a stretch. He was awful in 6 conference games and awful in the bowl game. Not sure what you watched when we played LSU, Kentucky, Alabama, Georgia, Auburn, Ole Miss, and Illinois but he was really bad in all of those games and we won 3 of them in spite of his play.
Last edited by Jarius; 01-11-2023 at 09:19 PM.
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Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
And we would be left with NOTHING if he left. We would be starting a not fully healthy TRUE FRESHMAN who has no backup. I don't like our odds in that situation.
Or we would go to the portal like literally everyone else does.
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Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
And we would be left with NOTHING if he left. We would be starting a not fully healthy TRUE FRESHMAN who has no backup. I don't like our odds in that situation.
Obviously next year isn't the time to start a brand new QB when we are close to a great season, but Will was a true freshman when he first started. Why can't Parson?
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Originally Posted by
Goldendawg
Who have we signed from Texas lately that has been a starter or impact player since Ross many moons ago?
Well Jalen Green started for the last two years. Marcus Banks, who will probably start for us next year is originally from Texas. Hunter Washington is from Texas. Hell, Chris Parson is originally from Texas.
But we need to recruit as many players from the state of Texas as possible. They're 10x the football state MS is. We need to stop falling in love with 2 stars from D'Iberville because it worked a couple of times. There's 5x as many that didn't. Go recruit Duncanville, Southlake, Westlake, Katy, South Oak Cliff, North Shore. Because here's the thing, start a pipeline and you'll have eyes on your program from these schools so that when their next 5 star comes along, which happens almost every year, you may have an in. You've got to be in the game to play it.
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Originally Posted by
Jarius
Or we would go to the portal like literally everyone else does.
And do you see anyone in the portal at the moment that is markedly better than Will? I don't. And again, I'm all for bringing in someone to push Will and maybe take the job, but let's don't bring in someone just to say we did and risk pissing off Will, Parson, or both.
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Originally Posted by
Turfdawg67
Obviously next year isn't the time to start a brand new QB when we are close to a great season, but Will was a true freshman when he first started. Why can't Parson?
Because Will HAD to start. Costello wasn't right in the head after Bama. He got his bell rung and was never right again.
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Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
And do you see anyone in the portal at the moment that is markedly better than Will? I don't. And again, I'm all for bringing in someone to push Will and maybe take the job, but let's don't bring in someone just to say we did and risk pissing off Will, Parson, or both.
There are people SEC schools can convince to get in the portal if they want to. It would take very little time to find someone of equal talent to replace our quarterback. There is also going to be another wave of portal players in a few months. Again, did you guys watch us offensively? We were really bad against any defense that was not atrocious. The idea that him leaving would be catastrophic to us is just hilarious. What are we gonna do? Go from scoring 14 ppg against anyone with a pulse to 12 ppg? I mean dang. Arnett is sick of having to field an 85 bears defense to win against anyone with a pulse.
Last edited by Jarius; 01-11-2023 at 09:30 PM.
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Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
Well Jalen Green started for the last two years. Marcus Banks, who will probably start for us next year is originally from Texas. Hunter Washington is from Texas. Hell, Chris Parson is originally from Texas.
But we need to recruit as many players from the state of Texas as possible. They're 10x the football state MS is. We need to stop falling in love with 2 stars from D'Iberville because it worked a couple of times. There's 5x as many that didn't. Go recruit Duncanville, Southlake, Westlake, Katy, South Oak Cliff, North Shore. Because here's the thing, start a pipeline and you'll have eyes on your program from these schools so that when their next 5 star comes along, which happens almost every year, you may have an in. You've got to be in the game to play it.
You are wrong here. X100. Texas puts out a lot of players because they are a huge state. Across the board, however, they are soft compared to players from small schools in the southeast. TX high school football has nothing on MS football other than money to build big stadiums and indoor practice facilities.
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