Kiffin's Offical Contract Sheet

[Really Clark?]

As stated on here before, the offical sheet submitted for approval and obtained by the CL is for 4 years. No mention in writing about additional years. They know the state will not approve more than 4 years, running it through the private foundation makes no difference.

https://www.clarionledger.com/story/...s/69795792007/

[WinningIsRelentless]

As stated on here before, the offical sheet submitted for approval and obtained by the CL is for 4 years. No mention in writing about additional years. They know the state will not approve more than 4 years, running it through the private foundation makes no difference.

https://www.clarionledger.com/story/...s/69795792007/

They gave the idiot a six year deal thru the grove collective. That?s why they came out with the 10 million figure. They are using the vast majority of it on Lane Train.

[Really Clark?]

They gave the idiot a six year deal thru the grove collective. That?s why they came out with the 10 million figure. They are using the vast majority of it on Lane Train.

They can't though. His actual contract cannot be more than 4 years. They have tried this multiple times and each time the Official contract and term sheet is for 4 years only.

[WinningIsRelentless]

They can't though. His actual contract cannot be more than 4 years. They have tried this multiple times and each time the Official contract and term sheet is for 4 years only.

Oh yes they can. The grove collective isn?t tied to the university like the athletic foundation is. It has to be third party per ncaa rules.

[Thick]

They can't though. His actual contract cannot be more than 4 years. They have tried this multiple times and each time the Official contract and term sheet is for 4 years only.

So you?re saying that the foundation doesn?t have to report what they are paying in addition to his 4 year state contract? He?s getting paid regardless, and everyone knows the state only allows 4 year contracts. Am I missing something? Just asking

[TrapGame]

I hope he bleeds them dry.

[Really Clark?]

Oh yes they can. The grove collective isn?t tied to the university like the athletic foundation is. It has to be third party per ncaa rules.

They have to report his salary just like they have done on this sheet. Kiffin is an employee of the state and his contract has to be approved by the state and they will not approve more than 4 years. NCAA rules cannot circumvent State law

[Really Clark?]

So you?re saying that the foundation doesn?t have to report what they are paying in addition to his 4 year state contract? He?s getting paid regardless, and everyone knows the state only allows 4 year contracts. Am I missing something? Just asking

I'm saying what he may have with the foundation cannot be a part of his official signed contract approved by the state and that contract is including his salary per year and the terms of that contract. Just because an outside entity is paying a portion of the deal doesn't circumvent the state law of the terms

[confucius say]

They are not the only school in the state to have ever done this. I'll just leave it there.

[deltadawg63]

Correct. Anyone can have a personal services contract for any length of time one can reach agreement upon in the private sector which would be a collective or private foundation.

[WinningIsRelentless]

Correct. Anyone can have a personal services contract for any length of time one can reach agreement upon in the private sector which would be a collective or private foundation.

Bingo.

[MaroonFlounder]

They won’t reveal what the buyout is.

Wonder why? LOL.

[Really Clark?]

"While athletic foundations may pay most or all of football coaches salaries, they do not employ coaches. The universities do. The IHL Board requires athletic foundation funds to pass through the universities to the coaches, i.e., no direct payments to coaches. That made it abundantly clear that coaches were university employees and subject institutional control."

"While news reports cited state law as the issue with contract limits, it's actually the state constitution. Section 213-A reads in part: Such board shall have the power and authority to elect the heads of the various institutions of higher learning, and contract with all deans, professors and other members of the teaching staff, and all administrative employees of said institutions for a term not exceeding four (4) years."

And here is also why foundations can't override state constitution, you can do the same for AD's, assistant coaches, private academic foundations could do the exact same for the presidents, etc. You can't circumvent the state constitution without opening the door to endless precedents that violates the state law.

[Pancho]

lotta cash for a 6 or 7 win season in 23

[WinningIsRelentless]

Correct. Anyone can have a personal services contract for any length of time one can reach agreement upon in the private sector which would be a collective or private foundation.

"While athletic foundations may pay most or all of football coaches salaries, they do not employ coaches. The universities do. The IHL Board requires athletic foundation funds to pass through the universities to the coaches, i.e., no direct payments to coaches. That made it abundantly clear that coaches were university employees and subject institutional control."

"While news reports cited state law as the issue with contract limits, it's actually the state constitution. Section 213-A reads in part: Such board shall have the power and authority to elect the heads of the various institutions of higher learning, and contract with all deans, professors and other members of the teaching staff, and all administrative employees of said institutions for a term not exceeding four (4) years."

And here is also why foundations can't override state constitution, you can do the same for AD's, assistant coaches, private academic foundations could do the exact same for the presidents, etc. You can't circumvent the state constitution without opening the door to endless precedents that violates the state law.

The collective isn?t an athletic foundation! Send a FOIA to one and see what happens. They are private businesses so they can lock into any deal they like.

[Really Clark?]

The collective isn?t an athletic foundation! Send a FOIA to one and see what happens. They are private businesses so they can lock into any deal they like.

That is from the IHL Board directly. The foundation, private or otherwise cannot contract an employee of a public university to work for the university. ALL employee contracts must go through the IHL. Period. Why do you think his salary had to be run through the university and reported by the university on a term of 4 years? Regardless if they are private or not, the school employees him and are bound by the IHL Board and the constitution.

[WinningIsRelentless]

That is from the IHL Board directly. The foundation, private or otherwise cannot contract an employee of a public university to work for the university. ALL employee contracts must go through the IHL. Period. Why do you think his salary had to be run through the university and reported by the university on a term of 4 years? Regardless if they are private or not, the school employees him and are bound by the IHL Board and the constitution.

So all our nil deals have to go thru the college board? No they don?t.

[Really Clark?]

So all our nil deals have to go thru the college board? No they don?t.

What?? No player is employed by the university. How did you jump to that conclusion?

[Leroy Jenkins]

So all our nil deals have to go thru the college board? No they don?t.

Students are not university employees. Unless its a service academy, no NIL.

[Ari Gold]

OM is FINALLY relevant with the big boys in college football... congrats.. I guess