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    Quote Originally Posted by BeardoMSU View Post
    Taking credit for your star LB, I see***
    Hey, I had to show my Roy Orbison tatoo to land that recruit.

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    Believe it or not football at least in my opinion was meant to be about creating good men and fathers and teaching life lessons. The money and social media has changed all that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeardoMSU View Post
    Glad he wasn't here when we recruited Jeff, then.

    In this league you've got to he flexible on some things.
    Well. Him and his staffs have won enough to stand by his principles. I cant say how I would have handled the Simmons deal. I am for second chances and on the surface Simmons seems like a great guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB**** View Post
    Well. Him and his staffs have won enough to stand by his principles. I cant say how I would have handled the Simmons deal. I am for second chances and on the surface Simmons seems like a great guy.
    Fair.

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    I don?t blame DJ for transferring. I also believe he shouldn?t have put that about Leach in his tweet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeardoMSU View Post
    Mike Is in the SEC. This is big boy country. His "principles" are 2nd to our program.
    Lmao. Kids are weak as Charmin these days & people like you are part of the reason why. DJ is obviously pissed off bc Leach didn't beg him to stay. He's easily replaceable.

    No way these kids could have played for my high school coaches back in the day. They would have quit the first day of practice. I've been told much worse things than a coach saying "you aren't tough" or whatever was said, if it was even said at all.

    I know a few players that played for Freeze & Mullen & I can tell you that if this upset Dillon, then he wouldn't have been able to pay for either of them. Good luck to anyone thinking they're immune to criticism as a college football player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 662dawg View Post
    Lmao. Kids are weak as Charmin these days & people like you are part of the reason why. DJ is obviously pissed off bc Leach didn't beg him to stay. He's easily replaceable.

    No way these kids could have played for my high school coaches back in the day. They would have quit the first day of practice. I've been told much worse things than a coach saying "you aren't tough" or whatever was said, if it was even said at all.

    I know a few players that played for Freeze & Mullen & I can tell you that if this upset Dillon, then he wouldn't have been able to pay for either of them. Good luck to anyone thinking they're immune to criticism as a college football player.
    Yep, all my fault.

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    Just some perspective: we had a running back named Kylin Hill a couple of years ago. Regardless of who was right or wrong off the field, we never missed his production.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RisperDawg View Post
    Just some perspective: we had a running back named Kylin Hill a couple of years ago. Regardless of who was right or wrong off the field, we never missed his production.
    Yeah and interestingly enough his bad attitude showed up in the NFL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RisperDawg View Post
    Just some perspective: we had a running back named Kylin Hill a couple of years ago. Regardless of who was right or wrong off the field, we never missed his production.
    Kylin Hill cussed out a female staffer and threatened to shoot a teammate once he got back to Starkville while in the locker room at Kentucky. He was 100 % a cancer. This ain’t that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yjnkdawg View Post
    What you posted makes sense, but some have their own agendas so some don't want it to play out. All of this is allegedly right now. Nobody knows the scenario on why certain things were said or what type of conversation they had.
    Yes and we'll never know for sure exactly what was said or done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yjnkdawg View Post
    What you posted makes sense, but some have their own agendas so some don't want it to play out. All of this is allegedly right now. Nobody knows the scenario on why certain things were said or what type of conversation they had.
    This exactly. I have "family" that actually plays for Leach right now & will be back next year & he says the players LOVE Coach Leach. This sounds like a situation where he expected Leach to beg him to stay & when it didn't happen he took a criticism from practice or something & ran with it as his way "out". I'll find out more tomorrow about what really happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 662dawg View Post
    This exactly. I have "family" that actually plays for Leach right now & will be back next year & he says the players LOVE Coach Leach. This sounds like a situation where he expected Leach to beg him to stay & when it didn't happen he took a criticism from practice or something & ran with it as his way "out". I'll find out more tomorrow about what really happened.
    Hard to make 100 guys happy.

    I actually like the portal because if a player doesn't want to be here then they can leave. Rather that than have a bad attitude infect the entire team.

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    We hire Moorhead and he coddles players and the players take advantage of him and we end up with a mess.

    Fans want a coach with more discipline.

    We hire Leach who brings in more discipline.

    Now fans are mad because our coach is too hard on the players.

    Nothing better summarizes Mississippi State fans.

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    The Simmons deal was handled 100% correctly. Simmons got dragged into a Hood dispute and made the mistake guys in his neighborhood make every day. It was a family thing and not a case of a kid being involved in something nefarious. He was given a 2nd chance and told the microscope was on him. He became a campus leader at State, made good grades, and did what people figured he would do. Now he is one of the NFL's top 5 guys on the DL and you dont hear about any trouble from him.
    Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    The Simmons deal was handled 100% correctly. Simmons got dragged into a Hood dispute and made the mistake guys in his neighborhood make every day. It was a family thing and not a case of a kid being involved in something nefarious. He was given a 2nd chance and told the microscope was on him. He became a campus leader at State, made good grades, and did what people figured he would do. Now he is one of the NFL's top 5 guys on the DL and you dont hear about any trouble from him.
    Good post. Make more posts like this. Less like ones smelling your own fart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tater View Post
    Good post. Make more posts like this. Less like ones smelling your own fart.
    Ease up Francis
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    Yeah, he's the poster child for second chances. Glad he managed to stay away from those scenarios afterward. If i were blessed with his build and someone laid hands and my family, you damn right i would use it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    The Simmons deal was handled 100% correctly. Simmons got dragged into a Hood dispute and made the mistake guys in his neighborhood make every day. It was a family thing and not a case of a kid being involved in something nefarious. He was given a 2nd chance and told the microscope was on him. He became a campus leader at State, made good grades, and did what people figured he would do. Now he is one of the NFL's top 5 guys on the DL and you dont hear about any trouble from him.
    Absolutely.

    But some guys have "zero tolerance".

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeardoMSU View Post
    Absolutely.

    But some guys have "zero tolerance".
    And zero tolerance is a lazy concept. All situations have uniquely different circumstances. Good leaders know how to apply the appropriate consequence in each situation.

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