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This is for all you Leach haters.........
final CFP rankings........ go 17 urselves!
1. Georgia Bulldogs 13-0 (1)
2. Michigan Wolverines 13-0 (2)
3. TCU Horned Frogs 12-1 (3)
4. Ohio State Buckeyes 11-1 (5)
5. Alabama Crimson Tide 10-2 (6)
6. Tennessee Volunteers 10-2 (7)
7. Clemson Tigers 11-2 (9)
8. Utah Utes 10-3 (11)
9. Kansas State Wildcats 10-3 (10)
10. USC Trojans 11-2 (4)
11. Penn State Nittany Lions 10-2 (8)
12. Washington Huskies 10-2 (12)
13. Florida State Seminoles 9-3 (13)
14. Oregon State Beavers 9-3 (15)
15. Oregon Ducks 9-3 (16)
16. Tulane Green Wave 11-2 (18)
17. LSU Tigers 9-4 (14)
18. UCLA Bruins 9-3 (17)
19. South Carolina Gamecocks 8-4 (19)
20. Texas Longhorns 8-4 (20)
21. Notre Dame Fighting Irish 9-3 (21)
22. Mississippi State Bulldogs 8-4 (24)
23. NC State Wolfpack 8-4 (25)
24. Troy Trojans 11-2 (NR)
25. UTSA Roadrunners 11-2 (NR)
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Notice there is no UMiss in there. This was their #webelieve season.
The Liberation will not be televised--- when it arrives like lightning in the skies!
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My problem with Leach is his offense. Our offense shouldn't be regressing with the returning starters.
Leach does run a good program though. This has been a successful season, and he should get props for that
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
My problem with Leach is his offense. Our offense shouldn't be regressing with the returning starters.
Leach does run a good program though. This has been a successful season, and he should get props for that
i am not hating on him but Will Rogers holds us back and we all know it.
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Originally Posted by
99jc
i am not hating on him but Will Rogers holds us back and we all know it.
He needs to be better next year without a doubt.
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
My problem with Leach is his offense. Our offense shouldn't be regressing with the returning starters.
Leach does run a good program though. This has been a successful season, and he should get props for that
This seems to be the main point of confusion within the Leach debate. I love Leach as a head coach. I just wish he would fire his offensive coordinator. You can hate the offense and realize it's extremely limited while also respecting the job he has done as an overall HC.
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Originally Posted by
Cowbell
This seems to be the main point of confusion within the Leach debate. I love Leach as a head coach. I just wish he would fire his offensive coordinator. You can hate the offense and realize it's extremely limited while also respecting the job he has done as an overall HC.
Yup. I like Leach the HC. I don't like Leach the OC.
Everyone wants to be a beast...until its time to do what beasts do.
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Originally Posted by
Leroy Jenkins
Yup. I like Leach the HC. I don't like Leach the OC.
That's why I really wish that Leach would bring in Graham Harrell as Co-OC/QB coach.
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Originally Posted by
TrapGame
That's why I really wish that Leach would bring in Graham Harrell as Co-OC/QB coach.
Bringing in an OC isn't going to do much other than placate some fans on the outside because the QB has most of the freedom to call the plays.
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Originally Posted by
99jc
i am not hating on him but Will Rogers holds us back and we all know it.
If that's the case, then leach needs to fix it. This is the portal age, you don't have to wait on a HS kid
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
If that's the case, then leach needs to fix it. This is the portal age, you don't have to wait on a HS kid
You and i both know Leach will never bench the greatest statistical passer in MSU history. The only way he rides the bench is an injury. It is what it is.
Last edited by 99jc; 12-04-2022 at 04:51 PM.
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Originally Posted by
99jc
You and i both know Leach will ever bench the greatest statistical passer in MSU history. The only way he rides the bench is an injury. It is what it is.
There should be a pay-cut clause for fool-hardiness.
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Originally Posted by
99jc
You and i both know Leach will never bench the greatest statistical passer in MSU history. The only way he rides the bench is an injury. It is what it is.
Leach believes in open competiton. At Washington State, Leach won the battle for transfer QB Gabe Gubrud, a former FCS All-American and two-time Walter Payton Award finalist. In his EWU career, Gubrud threw for 87 TDs and 9,984 yards and rushed for another 1,042 yards. He compiled 21-7 record as EWU's starting QB. But in open competition in the spring and fall, senior Anthony Gordon beat him out.
If anyone gives us a better chance to win, Leach will play him.
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Originally Posted by
TorpedoIPA
Leach believes in open competiton. At Washington State, Leach won the battle for transfer QB Gabe Gubrud, a former FCS All-American and two-time Walter Payton Award finalist. In his EWU career, Gubrud threw for 87 TDs and 9,984 yards and rushed for another 1,042 yards. He compiled 21-7 record as EWU's starting QB. But in open competition in the spring and fall, senior Anthony Gordon beat him out.
If anyone gives us a better chance to win, Leach will play him.
We may not HAVE someone who gives us a better chance to win but we NEED someone who gives us a better chance.
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Originally Posted by
TorpedoIPA
Leach believes in open competiton. At Washington State, Leach won the battle for transfer QB Gabe Gubrud, a former FCS All-American and two-time Walter Payton Award finalist. In his EWU career, Gubrud threw for 87 TDs and 9,984 yards and rushed for another 1,042 yards. He compiled 21-7 record as EWU's starting QB. But in open competition in the spring and fall, senior Anthony Gordon beat him out.
If anyone gives us a better chance to win, Leach will play him.
Leach has not shown open competition at Qb. The backups can't even get mop up duty. He's riding the Will train until the wheels fall off. We hit our ceiling this year with Will at Qb. He's terrified at any defense that sacks him once or twice.
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Senior Member
Originally Posted by
99jc
final CFP rankings........ go 17 urselves!
1. Georgia Bulldogs 13-0 (1)
2. Michigan Wolverines 13-0 (2)
3. TCU Horned Frogs 12-1 (3)
4. Ohio State Buckeyes 11-1 (5)
5. Alabama Crimson Tide 10-2 (6)
6. Tennessee Volunteers 10-2 (7)
7. Clemson Tigers 11-2 (9)
8. Utah Utes 10-3 (11)
9. Kansas State Wildcats 10-3 (10)
10. USC Trojans 11-2 (4)
11. Penn State Nittany Lions 10-2 (8)
12. Washington Huskies 10-2 (12)
13. Florida State Seminoles 9-3 (13)
14. Oregon State Beavers 9-3 (15)
15. Oregon Ducks 9-3 (16)
16. Tulane Green Wave 11-2 (18)
17. LSU Tigers 9-4 (14)
18. UCLA Bruins 9-3 (17)
19. South Carolina Gamecocks 8-4 (19)
20. Texas Longhorns 8-4 (20)
21. Notre Dame Fighting Irish 9-3 (21)
22. Mississippi State Bulldogs 8-4 (24)
23. NC State Wolfpack 8-4 (25)
24. Troy Trojans 11-2 (NR)
25. UTSA Roadrunners 11-2 (NR)
Congrats, he's maintaining our mediocre to average standing in college football. Considering that his offense was supposed to be special, and help elevate this program above what we've been doing, I'm not impressed.
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Originally Posted by
ArrowDawg
Congrats, he's maintaining our mediocre to average standing in college football. Considering that his offense was supposed to be special, and help elevate this program above what we've been doing, I'm not impressed.
arrowdawg i don't know where you have been but go back there...that is stupid
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Originally Posted by
99jc
arrowdawg i don't know where you have been but go back there...that is stupid
I was going to say the same thing. Talk about coming out of the woodwork to make a post.
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Originally Posted by
ArrowDawg
Congrats, he's maintaining our mediocre to average standing in college football. Considering that his offense was supposed to be special, and help elevate this program above what we've been doing, I'm not impressed.
It gets us to where Mullen had us on one of his good years.
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Originally Posted by
Dawgface
It gets us to where Mullen had us on one of his good years.
Mullen won 8 or more games in 2010, 2012, 2014, 2015, and 2017 and had built his best team for 2018 before leaving. Leach is just now getting to the Mullen level
Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
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