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Originally Posted by
ZedFedder
I think Luke Altmyer would do just fine.
Can't hit the side of a barn consistently. Not afraid to run though.
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Originally Posted by
ZedFedder
I think Luke Altmyer would do just fine.
not no but HELL NO!
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None of that is true.
Gardner Minshew, grad transfer, East Carolina State, picked the offense up immediately having played in a similar offense , beat out all the qbs on the roster, led the team to 11-2 and is playing in the nfl.
Anthony Gordon, juco transfer, won the job and was able to step in and play well. Gordon wasn’t great but was much better than Will, strong arm and athletic could run.
Leach can get a grad transfer who has played in a spread passing attack. Does not need to be a P5 five star, mid major or even juco can work.
lovertich is not what I’m talking about, he’s a scout team guy and about 5-10. I saw Leach yell several times at Will last night, he knows what the deal is.
If this offense had Minshew or Harrell next year you are looking at a possible 11 win season.
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Originally Posted by
WhiskeyPirate
None of that is true.
Gardner Minshew, grad transfer, East Carolina State, picked the offense up immediately having played in a similar offense , beat out all the qbs on the roster, led the team to 11-2 and is playing in the nfl.
Anthony Gordon, juco transfer, won the job and was able to step in and play well. Gordon wasn’t great but was much better than Will, strong arm and athletic could run.
Leach can get a grad transfer who has played in a spread passing attack. Does not need to be a P5 five star, mid major or even juco can work.
lovertich is not what I’m talking about, he’s a scout team guy and about 5-10. I saw Leach yell several times at Will last night, he knows what the deal is.
If this offense had Minshew or Harrell next year you are looking at a possible 11 win season.
Spot on. But I think Will is gonna be the guy next year.
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Originally Posted by
WhiskeyPirate
None of that is true.
Gardner Minshew, grad transfer, East Carolina State, picked the offense up immediately having played in a similar offense , beat out all the qbs on the roster, led the team to 11-2 and is playing in the nfl.
Anthony Gordon, juco transfer, won the job and was able to step in and play well. Gordon wasn?t great but was much better than Will, strong arm and athletic could run.
Leach can get a grad transfer who has played in a spread passing attack. Does not need to be a P5 five star, mid major or even juco can work.
lovertich is not what I?m talking about, he?s a scout team guy and about 5-10. I saw Leach yell several times at Will last night, he knows what the deal is.
If this offense had Minshew or Harrell next year you are looking at a possible 11 win season.
Then the only other explanation is that your beloved QB guru has simply missed on every single QB he's recruited in 3 years. I guess that's possible.
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Originally Posted by
PMDawg
Then the only other explanation is that your beloved QB guru has simply missed on every single QB he's recruited in 3 years. I guess that's possible.
Enjoy the nine win season, numb nuts
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Originally Posted by
parabrave
Well isn't he playing for a conference championship? Didn't he transfer as a freshman?
No you are thinking of Justin Fields. CJ has never transferred. Regardless that is not my point. But if it was my counter would be KJ Costello was a legit consensus 5 star. Even tho he did not work out here you definitely don?t give up after 1 if you can pull 5 star transfers here which we have shown we can.
My point was you do not need a huge 5 star prospect transfer QB. If there is someone better than what you have and you can get him, you do it. Not utilizing the transfer portal is gross negligence in this age. Imagine if we went and got someone like Bailey Zappee for this year? We win 10 games this season. Find those Bailey Zappes and if they wanna come let them compete.
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Originally Posted by
vv83
No you are thinking of Justin Fields. CJ has never transferred. Regardless that is not my point. But if it was my counter would be KJ Costello was a legit consensus 5 star. Even tho he did not work out here you definitely don?t give up after 1 if you can pull 5 star transfers here which we have shown we can.
My point was you do not need a huge 5 star prospect transfer QB. If there is someone better than what you have and you can get him, you do it. Not utilizing the transfer portal is gross negligence in this age. Imagine if we went and got someone like Bailey Zappee for this year? We win 10 games this season. Find those Bailey Zappes and if they wanna come let them compete.
Thanks.
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He isn't an air raid quarterback but a coach somewhere is going to figure out how to use Malik Hornsby from Arkansas. Leach said this after the Arkansas game.... "I think (Hornsby's) really good, kind of a stud," Mississippi State head coach Mike Leach said. "Well he's really fast, a guy that can get all of it if you don't keep a lid on him, and then he keeps it alive long enough that your coverage breaks down. Maybe not perfectly accurate, but he can throw it forever, so I thought that guy played really well."
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I would take Hornsby. Leach can coach him up, and Hornsby athleticism would give us an entirely different dimension. I would take him right now if he was interested.
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Originally Posted by
Lord McBuckethead
I would take Hornsby. Leach can coach him up, and Hornsby athleticism would give us an entirely different dimension. I would take him right now if he was interested.
Passing ability just isn’t there.
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Originally Posted by
CovertDawg
He isn't an air raid quarterback but a coach somewhere is going to figure out how to use Malik Hornsby from Arkansas. Leach said this after the Arkansas game.... "I think (Hornsby's) really good, kind of a stud," Mississippi State head coach Mike Leach said. "Well he's really fast, a guy that can get all of it if you don't keep a lid on him, and then he keeps it alive long enough that your coverage breaks down. Maybe not perfectly accurate, but he can throw it forever, so I thought that guy played really well."
We don't need an Air Raid QB. Or current Air Raid QB is hot garbage and cost us two wins this year. Leach needs to adapt to the reality of modern football if he doesn't retire. And that reality is that mobile QBs are here to stay. If you don't have one playing, you're screwed unless you have ridiculous talent on the OL like UGA. All of Leach's proteges have adapted to using a mobile QB (among other adjustments). Time for Leach to do the same or retire. Watching a noodle armed statue throw flares to the RBs as his primary read makes me want to scoop out my eyes with a rusty spoon.
It's the roller coaster of hope that this program keeps us on that makes it hell being a State fan. - CadaverDawg, 10/15/22
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Originally Posted by
War Machine Dawg
We don't need an Air Raid QB. Or current Air Raid QB is hot garbage and cost us two wins this year. Leach needs to adapt to the reality of modern football if he doesn't retire. And that reality is that mobile QBs are here to stay. If you don't have one playing, you're screwed unless you have ridiculous talent on the OL like UGA. All of Leach's proteges have adapted to using a mobile QB (among other adjustments). Time for Leach to do the same or retire. Watching a noodle armed statue throw flares to the RBs as his primary read makes me want to scoop out my eyes with a rusty spoon.
Leach has had several mobile QBs on his resume as a head coach. Sawyer is a mobile QB and so is Chris Parson, who will be enrolled in January.
Will is probably the least mobile QB Leach has ever had. And the kid stares down open receivers while dumping the ball off to the RB. That's the shit the pisses me off.
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Originally Posted by
TrapGame
Leach has had several mobile QBs on his resume as a head coach. Sawyer is a mobile QB and so is Chris Parson, who will be enrolled in January.
Why do people say that Sawyer is a mobile QB? Based on what?
I figured that people would be moving past the backup QB love that Sawyer has been getting after he got a few reps and people saw what that was actually like, but it looks like people aren't convinced.
Make no mistake, Sawyer will never be the QB here as long as Will Rogers is on the roster. So please stop wasting keystrokes and let it go.
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Originally Posted by
HancockCountyDog
Why do people say that Sawyer is a mobile QB? Based on what?
I figured that people would be moving past the backup QB love that Sawyer has been getting after he got a few reps and people saw what that was actually like, but it looks like people aren't convinced.
Make no mistake, Sawyer will never be the QB here as long as Will Rogers is on the roster. So please stop wasting keystrokes and let it go.
I was responding about mobile QBs. And yes, compared to Will, Sawyer is more mobile. I don't give a shit if he starts or not, that wasn't the point, but he can move better than Will. Hell, a ****ing oak tree can move better than Will.
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Originally Posted by
HancockCountyDog
Why do people say that Sawyer is a mobile QB? Based on what?
He looked pretty quick on his one rush against ETSU. Not saying he's Nick Fitzgerald but he has some wheels.
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Originally Posted by
CovertDawg
He isn't an air raid quarterback but a coach somewhere is going to figure out how to use Malik Hornsby from Arkansas. Leach said this after the Arkansas game.... "I think (Hornsby's) really good, kind of a stud," Mississippi State head coach Mike Leach said. "Well he's really fast, a guy that can get all of it if you don't keep a lid on him, and then he keeps it alive long enough that your coverage breaks down. Maybe not perfectly accurate, but he can throw it forever, so I thought that guy played really well."
He entered the portal last offseason but the only interest he had was from Marshall so he decided to come back. I think he could be a G5/FCS QB but if he wants to stay in P5 probably needs to swallow his pride and become a full-time WR.
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Because we know what we have. And what we have isn?t going to win a damn thing.
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The reason we won't get a portal QB doesn't have anything to do with will but the the fact that it takes a year just to learn this stupid system and the next QB here is the kid committed from Tennessee.
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Originally Posted by
Cowbell
The reason we won't get a portal QB doesn't have anything to do with will but the the fact that it takes a year just to learn this stupid system and the next QB here is the kid committed from Tennessee.
So what we’re saying is CML is a one trick pony and not a full-fledged coach.
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