Will Rogers versus anyone else at QB.

[TrapGame]

When was the last time Will threw a 10+ yd out?

He stopped after he was picked in the A&M game. Cause he doesn't have the arm for it. He's regressed badly.

The fade back shoulder play is almost a sure fire 15 yard penalty in 1on1 coverage. We've had plenty of that. Will hasn't throw that since Tulu dropped a TD.

Will had guys wide open in the Kentucky game but at the slightest hint pressure he was out of the pocket and running east and west instead of straight ahead for positive yards. He had Walley wide-ass open for a big 3rd down play but got chased by a linebacker only to throw it away. He had Rara open downfield with a step ahead of his guy, no safety in sight, for a long gainer but chose to throw it to a RB for almost no gain. Last year's Will had big balls. This year's Will consistently sucks his balls up his ass in big games.

[confucius say]

We are last in the SEC in yards per pass attempt.

2022- 6.4
2021- 7.0
2020- 5.9

Washington State

2019- 8.0
2018- 7.2
2017- 6.7
2016- 7.1
2015- 6.9
2014- 7.4

For context- Will has about 275 more passing yards than Bennett and Hooker...but throws it 16 and 20 more times per than they do

I'm surprised we've been able to go 7-5 twice with the complete inability to stretch the field combined with no run threat at qb.

[Jarius]

I'm surprised we've been able to go 7-5 twice with the complete inability to stretch the field combined with no run threat at qb.

This offense is magic until it faces a certain level of defense. We beat the shit out of average defenses and believe it or not we play a lot of average defenses. The problem is when we play the top 25-30 defenses we can’t even move the ball. He has to adapt. He has to get a quarterback who is a threat to run the ball when the pocket breaks down. What he is doing will continually get us to 7-5, but we have a very hard ceiling with this offensive approach and a quarterback who is a statue.

[Goldendawg]

We are last in the SEC in yards per pass attempt.

2022- 6.4
2021- 7.0
2020- 5.9

Washington State

2019- 8.0
2018- 7.2
2017- 6.7
2016- 7.1
2015- 6.9
2014- 7.4

For context- Will has about 275 more passing yards than Bennett and Hooker...but throws it 16 and 20 more times per than they do

A very boring "Air Raid" offense for fans to watch. A very predictable O for a D with a pulse to stop. Pitiful.

[coachnorm]

This offense is magic until it faces a certain level of defense. We beat the shit out of average defenses and believe it or not we play a lot of average defenses. The problem is when we play the top 25-30 defenses we can’t even move the ball. He has to adapt. He has to get a quarterback who is a threat to run the ball when the pocket breaks down. What he is doing will continually get us to 7-5, but we have a very hard ceiling with this offensive approach and a quarterback who is a statue.

You have a point about HE HAS TO ADAPT? Maybe Leach can not adapt because he has a limited knowledge of OFFENSIVE FOOTBALL and all he can direct is AIR RAID only? Looks like CML is great at tossing chairs at a high level and giving marriage advice at a high level, but cant modify his scheme at a high level? Take a military or business comparison for example, There is something called SOP which means STANDARD OPERATING PROCEEDURE. SOP get modified and updated to assure the survival of the organization. Failure to modify can be catastrophic? How many P5 programs toss swing passes and check downs like CML? Not many because their SOP is not screwed up, even CML disciples have got the message?

[EdwardDrayton]

Here’s where we are:

(1) Leach is tailoring the offense to the caliber QB we have
(2) No one in the QB room is good enough to change that
(3) It will not change until postseason when we go to the portal and get somebody
(4) We’re not winning the Egg Bowl

[confucius say]

A very boring "Air Raid" offense for fans to watch. A very predictable O for a D with a pulse to stop. Pitiful.

The counter to that is we score 27 against the best defense in America giving up only 10 ppg if RaRa catches the TD that him in the hands.
Even if you want to take the punt return off it's 20.

Getting a playmaker at qb would change everything.

[Lord McBuckethead]

So just concede the egg bowl. This is a dumb dumb thread.

We are not winning the egg bowl anyway, not with Will as QB. If we do, it is because we ran the ball or had 4 defensive turnovers very deep in their side of the field.
I am looking at what could possibly benefit this team more next season. This season's cake is already baked as soon as we lost to Kentucky after losing the gigantic lead against LSU.

Seriously, what would be better for MSU? Go 7-5 with Will next year or go 7-5 with anyone else in our QB room? WE have seen what Will can do, and he is not the QB that is going to get us to where we are trying to get, and that is Atlanta.

[DownwardDawg]

Here’s where we are:

(1) Leach is tailoring the offense to the caliber QB we have
(2) No one in the QB room is good enough to change that
(3) It will not change until postseason when we go to the portal and get somebody
(4) We’re not winning the Egg Bowl

5) we're not getting a portal QB. Will is Leach's guy.

[Johnson85]

Being frustrated with Will is being frustrated with Leach's offense.

Will is running what he is being asked to run. The WR's are dropping way more passes than they should. Will's arm is not a rocket, but it is plenty good enough to do what Leach is asking him to run.

Yea, it's hard to say whether the fault is on Leach or the WRs. Leach clearly thinks a decent amount is on the receivers. I certainly don't watch carefully enough to know what is Will's fault and what is his teammates fault. I just know it is frustrating as hell to watch us at times and it appears that Will has regressed, whether it is actually him or the receivers or the OL or a combination of all of them.

[Homedawg]

We are not winning the egg bowl anyway, not with Will as QB. If we do, it is because we ran the ball or had 4 defensive turnovers very deep in their side of the field.
I am looking at what could possibly benefit this team more next season. This season's cake is already baked as soon as we lost to Kentucky after losing the gigantic lead against LSU.

Seriously, what would be better for MSU? Go 7-5 with Will next year or go 7-5 with anyone else in our QB room? WE have seen what Will can do, and he is not the QB that is going to get us to where we are trying to get, and that is Atlanta.

I get it, we might not win. Even probably not win. But you are telling me you are going to look your guys in the face and say-" guys we are going to play sawyer just to see what he might look like for next year? I know we now have zero chance. "
Good thing you are our coach. Talk about losing a locker room. That'll do it

[Homedawg]

Here’s where we are:

(1) Leach is tailoring the offense to the caliber QB we have
(2) No one in the QB room is good enough to change that
(3) It will not change until postseason when we go to the portal and get somebody
(4) We’re not winning the Egg Bowl

I'll be floored if we bring in a qb that is good enough to win the job. Those guys want guaranteed deals. We have a 3 year returning starter. Don't see it.

[HancockCountyDog]

I'll be floored if we bring in a qb that is good enough to win the job. Those guys want guaranteed deals. We have a 3 year returning starter. Don't see it.

There is a negative 5% chance we bring in a transfer QB.

The first reason is NIL dollars. Why in the world would we spend our limited NIL money on a potential backup QB. Second reason is that Will is our starter next year assuming Leach is the coach. Now if Leach gets fired or he quits, then I could see us going after a dual threat QB.

An impact DE, big time WR or maybe an impact DB would be where I spend our NIL money.

[Percho]

So just concede the egg bowl. This is a dumb dumb thread.

"I'm with you fellers," O Brother Where Art Thou

[Percho]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNWn...l=NathanWalker

[Percho]

I still believe one of the Texas boys will win the QB job next year, beginning in the spring.

[dawgday166]

I am not so sure that is correct. You remember the Auburn game last year? Our W/R's were getting open, especially Polk, and Rogers was nailing them. Led a tremendous comeback to win. Everybody seems to be blaming Will this year for our troubles. Maybe they should look at our W/R's a little. If they're not getting open, it's not much Will can do.

He also had like 5 mins to throw before the pocket collapsed.

[Maroonthirteen]

I'm frustrated as anyone with the offense and QB. However the next two games could really change the momentum and outlook for next year for Mississippi State and OM. We could win two and they could lose two (and their coach). Who knows.

I know the odds are against. However let us go into this game with all we have. Then we can reassess Black Friday. Because nothing is changing between today and the egg bowl. May as well put all of our effort into beating them.

[Coach34]

I still believe one of the Texas boys will win the QB job next year, beginning in the spring.

almost no chance we bench a 3 yr starter

[dawgman15]

I have zero faith in us walking into Oxford and getting a win. We have been terrible on the road.