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    It will be interesting to see how I get destroyed for this, and how some will find a way to turn into how OM is better than us but Leach was in the hospital for 2 days this past week with pneumonia. Missed some practice. Didnt want to say anything if we lost bc God knows what this place would be like if that happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB**** View Post
    It will be interesting to see how I get destroyed for this, and how some will find a way to turn into how OM is better than us but Leach was in the hospital for 2 days this past week with pneumonia. Missed 2 practices. Didnt want to say anything if we lost bc God knows what this place would be like if that happened.
    Some of the players were sick also, right? Robinson family member on 247 said Robinson had strep or something on Wednesday, and some players needed IV and oxygen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Santiago View Post
    Some of the players were sick also, right? Robinson family member on 247 said Robinson had strep or something on Wednesday, and some players needed IV and oxygen.
    Flu and Streep was going around the MSU student body last week and this week I'm sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB**** View Post
    It will be interesting to see how I get destroyed for this, and how some will find a way to turn into how OM is better than us but Leach was in the hospital for 2 days this past week with pneumonia. Missed some practice. Didnt want to say anything if we lost bc God knows what this place would be like if that happened.
    He has not looked healthy.

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    Surprised he was able to coach. It’s that time of year. Flu bug can devastate a team.

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    And you know Leach didn't suggest to the entire team to take a flu vaccine. So... you know they didn't. If one person had the flu in the locker room, then 25 of them are going to have it showing symptoms by game time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord McBuckethead View Post
    And you know Leach didn't suggest to the entire team to take a flu vaccine. So... you know they didn't. If one person had the flu in the locker room, then 25 of them are going to have it showing symptoms by game time.
    Good lord man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB**** View Post
    It will be interesting to see how I get destroyed for this, and how some will find a way to turn into how OM is better than us but Leach was in the hospital for 2 days this past week with pneumonia. Missed some practice. Didnt want to say anything if we lost bc God knows what this place would be like if that happened.
    Makes sense. I didn't think he was going to survive the radio postgame interview with Neil.

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    That explains his post game press conference. He barely made it through that presser.

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    Unfortunately, this board has a lot of Leach haters and Leach blinders. The truth about Leach is somewhere in the middle. He is a good coach but not great. I understand that game was ugly, but completely writing off the team and acting like he is terrible is just wrong. Ole Miss is better than us, but not by as wide of a gap as many think. I still think we can beat them if we play our A game. We will be 7-4 and they will be 9-2. They will be playing for a NY6 bowl and we need to show up to crush that possibility. I think the majority of this Leach hate comes down more so to the success Ole Miss has achieved under Kiffin. We just need to play respectable against UGA, take care or business against ETSU and then go into Oxford having a winning mentality and pull it off. We don’t have the players to beat UGA but we do to beat Ole Miss

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    Quote Originally Posted by PGHBulldogBG View Post
    Unfortunately, this board has a lot of Leach haters and Leach blinders. The truth about Leach is somewhere in the middle. He is a good coach but not great. I understand that game was ugly, but completely writing off the team and acting like he is terrible is just wrong. Ole Miss is better than us, but not by as wide of a gap as many think. I still think we can beat them if we play our A game. We will be 7-4 and they will be 9-2. They will be playing for a NY6 bowl and we need to show up to crush that possibility. I think the majority of this Leach hate comes down more so to the success Ole Miss has achieved under Kiffin. We just need to play respectable against UGA, take care or business against ETSU and then go into Oxford having a winning mentality and pull it off. We don’t have the players to beat UGA but we do to beat Ole Miss
    Good post. I honestly think Leach needs to make a decision at q b after this season. He brought on Minshew as a grad transfer who was in a similar system at e c s u, if he can find a similar guy he’s got to bring him in. This offense with Minshew right now would be so much better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PGHBulldogBG View Post
    Unfortunately, this board has a lot of Leach haters and Leach blinders. The truth about Leach is somewhere in the middle. He is a good coach but not great. I understand that game was ugly, but completely writing off the team and acting like he is terrible is just wrong. Ole Miss is better than us, but not by as wide of a gap as many think. I still think we can beat them if we play our A game. We will be 7-4 and they will be 9-2. They will be playing for a NY6 bowl and we need to show up to crush that possibility. I think the majority of this Leach hate comes down more so to the success Ole Miss has achieved under Kiffin. We just need to play respectable against UGA, take care or business against ETSU and then go into Oxford having a winning mentality and pull it off. We don’t have the players to beat UGA but we do to beat Ole Miss
    Our Jekyl and Hyde offense, its disappearing for sometimes a quarter or more has many fans pulling their hair out, Coach Leach also, I'm sure. The frustration is not that we lost to LSU/KY, it is how bad we looked in the second half of both games. Leach is right about bama, as we have been intimidated by them for too many years. I no longer define our success compared to OM, but 3 losses in a row is far too much, especially if we lose badly. Finish as you have noted at 8-4 with a good non-Memphis or Birmingham Bowl and it is a very successful year. 7-5 with a lower bowl is a disappointing dud. Hail State!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldendawg View Post
    Our Jekyl and Hyde offense, its disappearing for sometimes a quarter or more has many fans pulling their hair out, Coach Leach also, I'm sure. The frustration is not that we lost to LSU/KY, it is how bad we looked in the second half of both games. Leach is right about bama, as we have been intimidated by them for too many years. I no longer define our success compared to OM, but 3 losses in a row is far too much, especially if we lose badly. Finish as you have noted at 8-4 with a good non-Memphis or Birmingham Bowl and it is a very successful year. 7-5 with a lower bowl is a disappointing dud. Hail State!
    Seems we go into mental lapses or to stop playing aggressive. Will is so much better when he has to run it as a 2 minute drill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldendawg View Post
    Our Jekyl and Hyde offense, its disappearing for sometimes a quarter or more has many fans pulling their hair out, Coach Leach also, I'm sure. The frustration is not that we lost to LSU/KY, it is how bad we looked in the second half of both games. Leach is right about bama, as we have been intimidated by them for too many years. I no longer define our success compared to OM, but 3 losses in a row is far too much, especially if we lose badly. Finish as you have noted at 8-4 with a good non-Memphis or Birmingham Bowl and it is a very successful year. 7-5 with a lower bowl is a disappointing dud. Hail State!
    I would've just agreed with this if I had seen it before my Jekyll & Hyde post LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by PGHBulldogBG View Post
    Unfortunately, this board has a lot of Leach haters and Leach blinders. The truth about Leach is somewhere in the middle. He is a good coach but not great. I understand that game was ugly, but completely writing off the team and acting like he is terrible is just wrong. Ole Miss is better than us, but not by as wide of a gap as many think. I still think we can beat them if we play our A game. We will be 7-4 and they will be 9-2. They will be playing for a NY6 bowl and we need to show up to crush that possibility. I think the majority of this Leach hate comes down more so to the success Ole Miss has achieved under Kiffin. We just need to play respectable against UGA, take care or business against ETSU and then go into Oxford having a winning mentality and pull it off. We don?t have the players to beat UGA but we do to beat Ole Miss
    I agree with this. I was not fond of the hire, but he's here so I wanted it to work. But early signs were troubling in the first two year. Some flashes of what this offense could be, this year, gave some hope. But LSU, Kentucky, Alabama, and even some scrubs like Auburn have exposed the offense's ineptness against better defenses. Now, I'm to the point where, yes, Leach is a pretty good coach, and we could do worse, but something is wrong. I think it's just how limited we are at QB. The WRs look pretty pedestrian a lot of times, but I think Will is holding them back. He's too happy to check down and dump it off to keep his completion percentage high. He doesn't attack defenses. He goes in a shell and just waits for someone else to make a play. When our backs are against the wall, sometimes he looks better for a little while. But overall, he's just not the answer. But, the MOST concerning thing is that no one is even pushing him. He's apparently the best we have by a mile, and there's no one that appears to have what it takes to close the gap and surpass him. So, what the heck have leach and his coaching staff been doing? Why is our QB room so bad? If the key to this offense is the QB, then they're failing as a staff. So, yeah, Leach is an alright coach, and the right QB could make his offense work in the SEC. On the other hand, we don't have the right QB and don't even appear to be close to finding one. So we're in a tricky spot. I don't hate Leach. I just feel like we're spinning our wheels going nowhere at this point.

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    The Leach concerns are also his history of just not emphasizing "rivalry" games while in Mississippi, this is not accceptable. For me, the other great concern that I saw in the Kentucky game and the Auburn game was the lack of in-game strategy adjustments, frankly, on defense too. UK had an excellent defensive scheme: Rush 4 with 3 DL and a surprise 4th, cover the back one on one and a shallow umbrella zone from the other 6. It worked well and we had no adjustments. Auburn followed this plan as well, we just made 3 excellent deep route catches for the difference in the game. The problem was we only challenged them deeply very few times and Rara made great deep ball plays. Defensively, UK and Auburn went big and power on offense and we struggled out of our base alot. 3-3-5 can be slashed and charged with TE and HB and they both did and we didnt adjust. Coaches have to make strategic adjustments in game in today's world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deltadawg63 View Post
    The Leach concerns are also his history of just not emphasizing "rivalry" games while in Mississippi, this is not accceptable. For me, the other great concern that I saw in the Kentucky game and the Auburn game was the lack of in-game strategy adjustments, frankly, on defense too. UK had an excellent defensive scheme: Rush 4 with 3 DL and a surprise 4th, cover the back one on one and a shallow umbrella zone from the other 6. It worked well and we had no adjustments. Auburn followed this plan as well, we just made 3 excellent deep route catches for the difference in the game. The problem was we only challenged them deeply very few times and Rara made great deep ball plays. Defensively, UK and Auburn went big and power on offense and we struggled out of our base alot. 3-3-5 can be slashed and charged with TE and HB and they both did and we didnt adjust. Coaches have to make strategic adjustments in game in today's world.
    Just how many offensive adjustments could there be available on that little piece of paper?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PMDawg View Post
    I agree with this. I was not fond of the hire, but he's here so I wanted it to work. But early signs were troubling in the first two year. Some flashes of what this offense could be, this year, gave some hope. But LSU, Kentucky, Alabama, and even some scrubs like Auburn have exposed the offense's ineptness against better defenses. Now, I'm to the point where, yes, Leach is a pretty good coach, and we could do worse, but something is wrong. I think it's just how limited we are at QB. The WRs look pretty pedestrian a lot of times, but I think Will is holding them back. He's too happy to check down and dump it off to keep his completion percentage high. He doesn't attack defenses. He goes in a shell and just waits for someone else to make a play. When our backs are against the wall, sometimes he looks better for a little while. But overall, he's just not the answer. But, the MOST concerning thing is that no one is even pushing him. He's apparently the best we have by a mile, and there's no one that appears to have what it takes to close the gap and surpass him. So, what the heck have leach and his coaching staff been doing? Why is our QB room so bad? If the key to this offense is the QB, then they're failing as a staff. So, yeah, Leach is an alright coach, and the right QB could make his offense work in the SEC. On the other hand, we don't have the right QB and don't even appear to be close to finding one. So we're in a tricky spot. I don't hate Leach. I just feel like we're spinning our wheels going nowhere at this point.
    Will is a good QB but he is holding us back. I believe he's reached his ceiling as a QB. Parson is the supposed heir apparent and he'll be here in December for spring '23. Leach and the offensive coaches need to have him ready to take over after next season. I like Leach but I'm not seeing where we are going to take this huge step under him. We will be a perennial 7-5/8-4 team under him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrapGame View Post
    We will be a perennial 7-5/8-4 team under him.
    I hope so. That would make him the best coach in school history. (And yes, obviously I hope he's better, but just getting there would be phenomenal.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quaoarsking View Post
    I hope so. That would make him the best coach in school history. (And yes, obviously I hope he's better, but just getting there would be phenomenal.)
    Q, that's with everything going our way. And the 8-4 is the theoretical win over OM.

    Maybe Leach can build something here pretty special but after what I witnessed for four quarters in year three Saturday night, I doubt it.

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