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    How can any of you think Leach is the answer at this point?

    We are not getting better, guys. We're getting worse

    He got out coached by Cadillac Williams tonight for goodness sake.

    Our kickers still suck. Our punters still suck. Our QB is worse now than he was earlier this season. We can't run the ball. Our recruiting sucks too by the way. The future is dimmer than the present

    Does it bother anybody that even if Auburn hired Kiffin (which they wont), Ole Miss could easily make a hire that would keep them light years better than us with Leach? It's because they are committed to football. We are not. We are content with 6 wins and a shit bowl.

    It's time for Keenum to decide if he's willing to do what it takes to win in the sport that matters, or not. There's a reason we hired the guy nobody else would hire in this league. We don't take football seriously. Are you guys cool with donating money to a program that doesn't care? I'm not.

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    Only glimmer is hopefully the new AD sees this and makes some changes around here

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    Quote Originally Posted by DEDawg View Post
    Only glimmer is hopefully the new AD sees this and makes some changes around here
    This is why I think Leach will be "encouraged" to retire after the Egg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeardoMSU View Post
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    I have to watch that video every time it pops up. I love it.

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    This game was it for me in terms of confidence in this coach, offense and QB. We will not consistently win. The only question is do we let it play out this year and next with 6-7 wins a year. Or do we go ahead and start revamping with the new AD.

    I vote for the revamp. Just can?t watch this any more. There?s no real hope for the future with what we have. Let?s take our lumps the next couple of years and build something truly competitive. What we have now is most assuredly not it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EdwardDrayton View Post
    This game was it for me in terms of confidence in this coach, offense and QB. We will not consistently win. The only question is do we let play it out this year and next with 6-7 wins a year. Or do we go ahead and start revamping with the new AD.

    I vote for the revamp. Just can’t watch this any more. There’s no real hope for the future in that. Let’s take our lumps the next couple of years and build something truly competitive. What we have now is most assuredly not it.
    This is the way I see it as well. Leach lost me tonight.

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    I would gauge interest of maybe 5 guys that are possible but are also kind of long shots like Deion, Whittingham, Rhule, Freeze and whoever. If they all shoot us down, I would still like to see this offense with a mobile QB. There are yards there for a guy like Jayden Daniels

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    Stayed the whole game. Very ugly. No SEC DC fears this "offense". At worse, they make halftime adjustments and we have nothing to adjust from that little piece of paper. WR's then disappear again for most of 2nd half, (see LSU, KY, and bama always). UMass punter was terrible. Will, no pocket presence on fumbles. You have to be able to run some to win in the SEC. Game, even though a win, is a prime example of why it's hard for State fans to buy in. Cadillac and his "staff" had 3 days to prepare for this game, Leach and staff had 2 weeks. Let that sink in.
    Last edited by Goldendawg; 11-06-2022 at 12:19 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldendawg View Post
    Stayed the whole game. Very ugly. No SEC DC fears this "offense". At worse, they make halftime adjustments and we have nothing to adjust from that little piece of paper. WR's then disappear again for most of 2nd half, (see LSU, KY, and bama always). UMass punter was terrible. Will, no pocket presence on fumbles. You have to be able to run some to win in the SEC. Game, even though a win, is a prime example of why it's hard for State fans to buy in. Cadillac and his "staff" had 3 days to prepare for this game, Leach and staff had 2 weeks. Let that sink in.
    I had the flu and could not make it but for you guys there - did we have WR's open during that stretch that was ugly? It seemed at times we checked down really fast.
    Also, on some of the runs, if Rogers just fakes the hand off he had green grass around the ends because they were crashing down.

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    We need someone with a spread offense. Proven g5 coach that isn't harsin and has sec ties.
    Or f*ck it. Who is the newest Saban retread as an oc and former HC...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScoobaDawg View Post
    We need someone with a spread offense. Proven g5 coach that isn't harsin and has sec ties.
    Or f*ck it. Who is the newest Saban retread as an oc and former HC...
    Todd Monken.

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    Quote Originally Posted by parabrave View Post
    Todd Monken.
    Does anyone know why this guy is never mentioned or considered?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vindastra View Post
    Does anyone know why this guy is never mentioned or considered?
    I think he hates recruiting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScoobaDawg View Post
    We need someone with a spread offense. Proven g5 coach that isn't harsin and has sec ties.
    Or f*ck it. Who is the newest Saban retread as an oc and former HC...
    Chip Kelly. Doesn't have the SEC ties but he's proving he can do it at UCLA and he's got a lot of what we want. Similar offense, coached in big time games.

    I would kick the tires on that and see what happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MetEdDawg View Post
    Chip Kelly. Doesn't have the SEC ties but he's proving he can do it at UCLA and he's got a lot of what we want. Similar offense, coached in big time games.

    I would kick the tires on that and see what happens.
    You'd fire him straight out of the gate. 3-9, 4-8, 3-4 in his first 3 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MetEdDawg View Post
    Chip Kelly. Doesn't have the SEC ties but he's proving he can do it at UCLA and he's got a lot of what we want. Similar offense, coached in big time games.

    I would kick the tires on that and see what happens.
    Unless UCLA ran him off, no way he leaves them for us at this point in his career.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MetEdDawg View Post
    Chip Kelly. Doesn't have the SEC ties but he's proving he can do it at UCLA and he's got a lot of what we want. Similar offense, coached in big time games.

    I would kick the tires on that and see what happens.
    Are you fuсking serious win that? Can you imagine the meltdown if Mike Leach had 3 losing records his first 3 seasons here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quaoarsking View Post
    Are you fuсking serious win that? Can you imagine the meltdown if Mike Leach had 3 losing records his first 3 seasons here?
    UCLA was a complete and total rebuild. We aren't anything close to that even though our fan bases favorite pastime is finding ways to crap on every conference win we ever have after we've won.

    With what we have on roster, we aren't winning 3 and 4 games a year. We have the best group of QBs we've ever had, talent at the skill positions. Anyone that thinks Chip would come in and win 3 or 4 has a severely warped view of our program.

    We could pay Chip Kelly 6-7 million dollars a year. Might not happen, but to me if you don't want to go down that road, that's ridiculous. Because Chip would be a good coach. Doesn't mean we get him, but why the hell would you not think about it? I don't really see negatives there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MetEdDawg View Post
    Chip Kelly. Doesn't have the SEC ties but he's proving he can do it at UCLA and he's got a lot of what we want. Similar offense, coached in big time games.

    I would kick the tires on that and see what happens.
    This is where we start looking ridiculous. Chip Kelly is not leaving LA for Starkville. Sorry to jump on your comment, but I mean this more toward all our other fans that want to jump on Leach, and assume we will land a big name.

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