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    what about the portal receiver from georgia? I have lost track of him

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quaoarsking View Post
    We should have small high school classes every year and stock up on transfers from Georgia, Alabama, etc., who aren't quite good enough to play there but want a second chance to prove themselves.

    Make it part of our culture officially that you can prove your original blue blood school wrong by coming here and showing out.
    Another SEC school in our state is doing that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldendawg View Post
    Will be interesting to see how this plays out as they meet tougher competition with 19 new guy$.
    Some have said all you need is talent. If you can get the talent ....


    Why cant we hire ED O as recruiting coordinator ( probably would just rather pay the recruits with that money)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawgology View Post
    It?s about ROI. Why would I fund an NIL or donate $100k+ when I don?t believe in this athletic departments capability to capitalize on it? I?ve seen nothing to indicate it will be managed well. Certainly not in football or basketball. In regards to baseball they had all the momentum and good publicity they will ever have and they flushed it all last year. Total mismanagement. Bad investment at present.
    Do not donate. Contact the player on your own that you want to get to come to state. Its not illegal for a private citizen to do that if you arent employed by the university.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PikeDawg15 View Post
    Do not donate. Contact the player on your own that you want to get to come to state. Its not illegal for a private citizen to do that if you arent employed by the university.
    Hahahaha. Bracky just had a heart attack.

    Scratch that.... I just saw the visit list for this weekend. Y'all need to get to the game and do some handshaking. It would be nice to flip a certain safety.
    Last edited by Maroonthirteen; 09-22-2022 at 12:52 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pancho View Post
    what about the portal receiver from georgia? I have lost track of him
    https://hailstate.com/sports/footbal...-robinson/7563 Caught a TD in game one. He is a Sophomore and will get more time as the season goes on and continues to learn the system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    Late September and we are 39th currently in recruiting (44th in average star rating). We are recruiting behind Duke, Iowa State, Pitt, and Purdue currently.

    Either NIL is hurting us OR the Pirate isnt working the recruiting roads. Northwestern has twice as many 4-stars as we do. December will be here before we know it. Gonna take a helluva close.
    I mean, there were like 4 people that didn't understand that having to compete with under the table money helped a school that generally had fewer and less affluent alumni but some with intense fanship. Certainly there were people that were hopeful, but I think everybody knew this was going to be really bad unless we were really good about shifting much more of school giving to NIL and trying to pay expenses with TV and ticket revenue (without the big donations just to hold a seat).

    The school really needs to figure out a way to give people credit for NIL deals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PikeDawg15 View Post
    Some have said all you need is talent. If you can get the talent ....


    Why cant we hire ED O as recruiting coordinator ( probably would just rather pay the recruits with that money)
    This would send a clear signal to investors that MSU is getting serious. It will never happen until we have an administrative change.

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    I do think NIL will affect us too. However, right now our average player rating on 247 is 87.26. Going back to 2015, 16, & 17 (classes which produced 2018 team), our average player ratings were between 87 & 88. So it seems to me our rating is about where it normally is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dawgday166 View Post
    I do think NIL will affect us too. However, right now our average player rating on 247 is 87.26. Going back to 2015, 16, & 17 (classes which produced 2018 team), our average player ratings were between 87 & 88. So it seems to me our rating is about where it normally is.
    Problem is our competition is increasing their player ratings.

    Texas a&m did not recruit this high in 2015

    Kentucky, Arkansas, and ole miss are steadily increasing their talent roster.

    Auburn wont be down long if they hire the right guy and get their NIL shit together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PikeDawg15 View Post
    Problem is our competition is increasing their player ratings.

    Texas a&m did not recruit this high in 2015

    Kentucky, Arkansas, and ole miss are steadily increasing their talent roster.

    Auburn wont be down long if they hire the right guy and get their NIL shit together.
    Right now I don't see that this year. They're recruiting about the same too. TAM had great year last year but they've been in top 5 / top 10 for a few years now I think. They always recruit better than they play.

    Either way I do think NIL will be negative impact to us long term. And recruiting isn't over this year so a lot of money might be spent in a flurry towards December that could produce exactly what you're describing.

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    NIL really helps the wealthy schools that underachieve annually aka Texas, USC, Oregon. It may eventually remove Bama from the top spot.

    If you play the portal right, it may not be as disastrous for us as some think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dawgday166 View Post
    Right now I don't see that this year. They're recruiting about the same too. TAM had great year last year but they've been in top 5 / top 10 for a few years now I think. They always recruit better than they play.
    A&M recruiting

    2016- 18th
    2017- 13th
    2018- 17th
    2019- 5th
    2020- 6th
    2021- 9th
    2022- 1st
    Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is

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    A&M needs a new coach to put all that talent to use. Jimbo ain’t it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    A&M recruiting

    2016- 18th
    2017- 13th
    2018- 17th
    2019- 5th
    2020- 6th
    2021- 9th
    2022- 1st
    This is pretty close to what I was saying. So TAM bounced up with Jimbo before NIL. Right now they're 24th but they only have 11 recruits. So I do think NIL will adversely affect us but I'm not sure I'm seeing that much just yet. However, this year ain't over yet either.

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    If you pick up a starter in the transfer portal, it's a win. Lashley wasn't great, but someone worse would have been playing there if we hadn't gotten him.

    Similarly, if you pick up a player who flips even just 1 loss to a win, it's a huge portal success. KJ Costello wasn't great either, but without him we lose to LSU in 2020.

    Thus, Lashley and Costello should be counted as transfer portal wins, not busts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Offshore Dawg View Post
    Remind us again how much you donated.
    Bulldog Club since day one, football season tickets for 50 plus years (8 to 12 per year), many special projects over the years. Hail State!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maroonthirteen View Post
    We will be lucky to have 30,000 actual this weekend.
    I tried for a week to give away some good tickets, no luck. I would love to see success on the field bring sellouts and only a very few tickets available at over MSRP*, before I punt*! Hail State!

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    A&M went up 4 points since the portal kicked in? That's not that much difference. Top 5 is all very similar.
    I don't see a huge difference.
    Here, I see a staff that needs to recruit better and a school that needs to commit to being a good program.

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    https://www.latimes.com/sports/highs...-champs-sports

    This guy has not committed to a school and is pocketing money ahead of time?

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