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NIL wont affect us some of you said.....
Late September and we are 39th currently in recruiting (44th in average star rating). We are recruiting behind Duke, Iowa State, Pitt, and Purdue currently.
Either NIL is hurting us OR the Pirate isnt working the recruiting roads. Northwestern has twice as many 4-stars as we do. December will be here before we know it. Gonna take a helluva close.
Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
Late September and we are 39th currently in recruiting (44th in average star rating). We are recruiting behind Duke, Iowa State, Pitt, and Purdue currently.
Either NIL is hurting us OR the Pirate isnt working the recruiting roads. Northwestern has twice as many 4-stars as we do. December will be here before we know it. Gonna take a helluva close.
All of our commits are underrated.
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Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
ahhhhhh Diamonds.
Diamonds are forever!!!
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
Late September and we are 39th currently in recruiting (44th in average star rating). We are recruiting behind Duke, Iowa State, Pitt, and Purdue currently.
Either NIL is hurting us OR the Pirate isnt working the recruiting roads. Northwestern has twice as many 4-stars as we do. December will be here before we know it. Gonna take a helluva close.
As I have posted before, our current list of "Top Targets" on Genespage only has 3 HS players left that are "warm" to us and only one is a 4 star. Looking at the list, do we even recruit many 4 stars (most may already committed)? OM is still around 50, they seem to be committed to the portal, but have about 3 of the top 5 MS HS players. They may become great players, but we seem to be hitting TN hard but even though they are top 25 rated in that state, I have often read here that TN is not exactly a recruiting hotbed even for UT. Sign me worried that this will even be a TOP 30 class. We must increa$e our recruiting budget big time now.
Last edited by Goldendawg; 09-21-2022 at 02:46 PM.
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
Late September and we are 39th currently in recruiting (44th in average star rating). We are recruiting behind Duke, Iowa State, Pitt, and Purdue currently.
Either NIL is hurting us OR the Pirate isnt working the recruiting roads. Northwestern has twice as many 4-stars as we do. December will be here before we know it. Gonna take a helluva close.
Yep. I pointed out that Northwestern had more money than we do. And look at them.......
If any ivy league college wanted to, they could lower admissions and be the elite conference.
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In all seriousness are we the poorest school in the conference?
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Originally Posted by
dawgman15
In all seriousness are we the poorest school in the conference?
Well, according to some, we put a big chuck of that very large annual $EC check under our mattress for a rainy day. Well, it doesn't take SVD to tell it's pouring down rain on our recruiting compared to most of the SEC.
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Originally Posted by
Goldendawg
Well, according to some, we put a big chuck of that very large annual $EC check under our mattress for a rainy day. Well, it doesn't take SVD to tell it's pouring down rain on our recruiting compared to most of the SEC.
I get that but each school gets the same amount from the tv deal, I mean as in our alumni base who donate to the school. I would imagine being our size we dont have the same pot of money as other schools
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We don't put it under our bed. Our athletics staff almost doubled. With the sec deal came need Internet to hire full time camera men for every sport more administrative positions etc. because every single sport just about has to have their game streamed tennis, softball, all the basketball games both men and women.
Nothing has changed in football money wise, boosters are every school still play the lead in recruiting and we aren't keeping up.
Now, I expect us to be a 6-6 to 8-4 team with a 9+ win team every 3-5 years. But those that have higher expectations need to donate more. I'm not a fan of spending other people's money and I'm ok with understanding we will never have the fanbase or money to compete for dec championships in football every year.
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Originally Posted by
dawgman15
In all seriousness are we the poorest school in the conference?
Yes. And it?s not even close.
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We should have small high school classes every year and stock up on transfers from Georgia, Alabama, etc., who aren't quite good enough to play there but want a second chance to prove themselves.
Make it part of our culture officially that you can prove your original blue blood school wrong by coming here and showing out.
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Originally Posted by
Quaoarsking
We should have small high school classes every year and stock up on transfers from Georgia, Alabama, etc., who aren't quite good enough to play there but want a second chance to prove themselves.
Make it part of our culture officially that you can prove your original blue blood school wrong by coming here and showing out.
Limited sample size thus far, but what transfer for us has made a big splash except Polk? Several duds so far and seeing a bama RT that didn't even sniff the field for them, but immediately started for us with limited success says a lot about our talent on hand at the time. OM brought in 19 new this year and AZ 50. Will be interesting to see how their seasons go. Portal is here to stay, but some transfers not even finding a new landing spot and some didn't play at first stop for a reason. We have a former Texas HS 5 star that is now a second year starter for us, (yet to be beat out), at safety and it is again a weak spot for us in pass D. A highly rated bama WR didn't even last a season for us (may have been under JoMO).
Last edited by Goldendawg; 09-21-2022 at 03:03 PM.
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Originally Posted by
Quaoarsking
We should have small high school classes every year and stock up on transfers from Georgia, Alabama, etc., who aren't quite good enough to play there but want a second chance to prove themselves.
Make it part of our culture officially that you can prove your original blue blood school wrong by coming here and showing out.
Kiffin is definitely making the portal a priority.
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Originally Posted by
BeardoMSU
Kiffin is definitely making the portal a priority.
Will be interesting to see how this plays out as they meet tougher competition with 19 new guy$.
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Originally Posted by
Goldendawg
Will be interesting to see how this plays out as they meet tougher competition with 19 new guy$.
Some have said all you need is talent. If you can get the talent ....
Why cant we hire ED O as recruiting coordinator ( probably would just rather pay the recruits with that money)
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Originally Posted by
PikeDawg15
Some have said all you need is talent. If you can get the talent ....
Why cant we hire ED O as recruiting coordinator ( probably would just rather pay the recruits with that money)
This would send a clear signal to investors that MSU is getting serious. It will never happen until we have an administrative change.
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Originally Posted by
Quaoarsking
We should have small high school classes every year and stock up on transfers from Georgia, Alabama, etc., who aren't quite good enough to play there but want a second chance to prove themselves.
Make it part of our culture officially that you can prove your original blue blood school wrong by coming here and showing out.
We are awful at identifying and recruiting portal players
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Originally Posted by
Big4Dawg
We are awful at identifying and recruiting portal players
Polk
Jordan Morant 4 star
Hunter Washington 4 star
Justin Robinson 6-4 / 220 WR 4 star
Jordan Mosley 4 star
Jackie Matthews 4 star
Marcus Banks 4 star
Greene 5 star
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Originally Posted by
BlackSailsDawg
Polk
Jordan Morant 4 star
Hunter Washington 4 star
Justin Robinson 6-4 / 220 WR 4 star
Jordan Mosley 4 star
Jackie Matthews 4 star
Marcus Banks 4 star
Greene 5 star
I'm sure glad you listed them all so I can see we're batting a great .200 on contributions from our portal players.
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