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    I'm optimistic that State has an improved team over last year. I'm optimistic that last night doesn't define the season. State can win 7 this, maybe 8 with an upset.

    However I don't buy this offense neutralizes talent differences. We haven't score a TD on Bama in two years. We have Bama and UGA this year at home. Make those games a fourth quarter game, I'll give credit where it is due. However to date, this offense is just another way to attack a defense. Like any offense, sometimes it works. Sometimes it doesn't.

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    Tough schedule

    LSU on the road, Bama, Georgia, top ten ranked : UK and Arkansas.

    What does that mean ? You lost to #1, #2, #8, #10 and to LSU in Death Valley which historically has happened about 95% of the time.

    So don’t let anyone tell you we should win 9 or 10 or Leach should be fired. What a load of bull..

    If we go 8-4 we will probably be a top ten ranked team or very close.

    7-5 and we are still probably a top 20 team.
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    What I saw last night was positive also, and has been for a couple of years. In that with this offense, if the QB and WR's are playing at least above average to really good, then it neutralizes going against a defense full of 4 and 5 star players.
    Catch the passes last night and we have over another 150 yards(assuming those first downs create a few more), and we eat up another 10 minutes of clock overall, and generate points.
    Do that, and by the 4 quarter it is their defense that is gassed and not ours. We do need an accurate QB who can also escape pressure enough to keep the 5 star and NFL DL from laying their ears back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Santiago View Post
    What I saw last night was positive also, and has been for a couple of years. In that with this offense, if the QB and WR's are playing at least above average to really good, then it neutralizes going against a defense full of 4 and 5 star players.
    Catch the passes last night and we have over another 150 yards(assuming those first downs create a few more), and we eat up another 10 minutes of clock overall, and generate points.
    Do that, and by the 4 quarter it is their defense that is gassed and not ours. We do need an accurate QB who can also escape pressure enough to keep the 5 star and NFL DL from laying their ears back.
    Good post, we'll be ok. 7-5 but hoping for 8-4.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catfish View Post
    Good post, we'll be ok. 7-5 but hoping for 8-4.
    If we do recover to go 7-5 and that includes a much overdue victory over OM, I think all State fans will be happy. Hail State!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Santiago View Post
    What I saw last night was positive also, and has been for a couple of years. In that with this offense, if the QB and WR's are playing at least above average to really good, then it neutralizes going against a defense full of 4 and 5 star players.
    Catch the passes last night and we have over another 150 yards(assuming those first downs create a few more), and we eat up another 10 minutes of clock overall, and generate points.
    Do that, and by the 4 quarter it is their defense that is gassed and not ours. We do need an accurate QB who can also escape pressure enough to keep the 5 star and NFL DL from laying their ears back.
    Good post. RaRa dropped a crosser in the third quarter that lsu was out of position on and he likely would've scored or at least got close because that whole side of the field had been vacated

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldendawg View Post
    If we do recover to go 7-5 and that includes a much overdue victory over OM, I think all State fans will be happy. Hail State!
    We have to beat om this year. 7-5 with om win and im good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Commercecomet24 View Post
    We have to beat om this year. 7-5 with om win and im good.
    Me too, 7-5 is doable as I think every game will be close in the Sec.

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    We had one of our best teams go down to Baton Rouge in 2010 and got crushed 29-7. That was a team with lots of NFL players on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bothrops View Post
    We had one of our best teams go down to Baton Rouge in 2010 and got crushed 29-7. That was a team with lots of NFL players on it.
    That was an ugly ugly game. It wasn't as close as the score either. They dominated us from start to finish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Commercecomet24 View Post
    That was an ugly ugly game. It wasn't as close as the score either. They dominated us from start to finish.
    Yes and started with the targeting no-call on our safety- I forget his name. That is still to this day the worst targeting hit I've ever seen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bothrops View Post
    Yes and started with the targeting no-call on our safety- I forget his name. That is still to this day the worst targeting hit I've ever seen.
    Yep I remember it well. I remember having a lot of optimism for that game too and we sucked from start to finish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Commercecomet24 View Post
    That was an ugly ugly game. It wasn't as close as the score either. They dominated us from start to finish.
    Ugly enough that I actually repressed that game from my memory other than Chris Relf hitting Mike the Tigers cage in pregame. Some LSU fans were mad because they thought he did it on purpose but the reality is that was just Relf being Relf.

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    Here's a hot take. LSU blitzing like they did is going to be copied by other teams we play. But the silver lining is it's going to force Will to throw deep more. Hopefully that will build his confidence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    Here's a hot take. LSU blitzing like they did is going to be copied by other teams we play. But the silver lining is it's going to force Will to throw deep more. Hopefully that will build his confidence.
    With that pressure, he won't have time to throw long to our blanketed WR's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    Here's a hot take. LSU blitzing like they did is going to be copied by other teams we play. But the silver lining is it's going to force Will to throw deep more. Hopefully that will build his confidence.
    I thought about this and i went back and watched our offense. Here is what LSU did:

    Rush 3 - 17 times
    rush 4 - 30 times
    rush 5 - 2 times
    rush 6 - 2 times (one resulted in a TD, the other a big gain)

    Most of the time they rushed 3, but if the RB stayed in to block, the LB came on a delayed blitz.

    We didn't get beat by the blitz. We could not protect against a 3 or 4 man front consistently. I want teams to blitz us, when they do, big things happen. When they sit back and play zone or man - we struggle. LSU played a lot of man with 2-3 players playing zone. So each WR would have a man on them, and then they would have 3 additional guys in different zones. It was very effective.

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    Pretty good assessment and I tend to agree ... we are capable and have enough talent to compete in those games but the question is which team will show up - the team that limits mistakes or the team that fumbles a punt on our own 6 yard line ... I felt like that fumble turned the momentum in their direction and pretty much won the game for them. Leach made some bone headed decisions and that causes me to wonder what kind of confidence Leach actually has in this team. Is it like He felt good enough about his offense to go for it on 4th down or was it something like he didn't have enough confidence in our defense to stop them? .... either way he made some questionable decisions that were very uncomfortable - yeah the first time we went for it inside our own 25 yd line paid off but that's a risk that I didn't think was worth taking. So I see your logic and agree that we are capable, but it's going to take better discipline on players AND coaches alike
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    Quote Originally Posted by FISHDAWG View Post
    Pretty good assessment and I tend to agree ... we are capable and have enough talent to compete in those games but the question is which team will show up - the team that limits mistakes or the team that fumbles a punt on our own 6 yard line ... I felt like that fumble turned the momentum in their direction and pretty much won the game for them. Leach made some bone headed decisions and that causes me to wonder what kind of confidence Leach actually has in this team. Is it like He felt good enough about his offense to go for it on 4th down or was it something like he didn't have enough confidence in our defense to stop them? .... either way he made some questionable decisions that were very uncomfortable - yeah the first time we went for it inside our own 25 yd line paid off but that's a risk that I didn't think was worth taking. So I see your logic and agree that we are capable, but it's going to take better discipline on players AND coaches alike
    Brain freeze that a usually sure handed 6th year player even tries to field a punt inside our own 10. Try someone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Commercecomet24 View Post
    Good post. RaRa dropped a crosser in the third quarter that lsu was out of position on and he likely would've scored or at least got close because that whole side of the field had been vacated

    Rufus also dropped a huge one too that he possibly would have scored on in the 2nd quarter. We just were too sloppy to win that game. We had ample chances in the first half and couldn't do anything. Will's lack of mobility really limits what we can do offensively when the receivers or oline have breakdowns. Will also missed on 3 or 4 reads where we had guys open on 25 plus yard plays down field.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trob115 View Post
    Rufus also dropped a huge one too that he possibly would have scored on in the 2nd quarter. We just were too sloppy to win that game. We had ample chances in the first half and couldn't do anything. Will's lack of mobility really limits what we can do offensively when the receivers or oline have breakdowns. Will also missed on 3 or 4 reads where we had guys open on 25 plus yard plays down field.
    Rufus was wide ass open when Will took a sack in the early third quarter.

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