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Originally Posted by
PikeDawg15
We will beat auburn and pray we can beat 1 more sec team get to a bowl.
Bryce young - run threat ..... As if this is the deciding factor on if we can win?
Jayden Daniels - run threat Has not 1 thing to do with our offense. It has to do with the lack of recruiting LBS under JoMo. These are SRs and Jrs...
Jaxson dart - run threat
Kj Jefferson - run threat A different type of runner that plays to our strengths. He isn't beating us to the edge.
Max johnson - run threat
Tj finley - run threat
Will Rogers - sack threat .
Saban was where we are and lost games due to the lack of speed at LB (see Ohio State game). We are at that point. In fact, did you watch Charlton trying to catch Daniels?
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Originally Posted by
BlackSailsDawg
Saban was where we are and lost games due to the lack of speed at LB (see Ohio State game). We are at that point. In fact, did you watch Charlton trying to catch Daniels?
Charlton is more of a DE, but our D, especially LB's are very slow by SEC standards. Safety play is again very bad in pass D. DE's were hyped pre-season and unless it is the scheme our pass rush/sacks are almost non-existent. We don't have an Edge player that can cause havoc like LSU. O is soft and 10 vs 11. ST horrible. Not a coach, but 50 plus year season ticket holder. Have seen plenty of them at State and this is a bad team.
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Originally Posted by
Goldendawg
Charlton is more of a DE, but our D, especially LB's are very slow by SEC standards. Safety play is again very bad in pass D. DE's were hyped pre-season and unless it is the scheme our pass rush/sacks are almost non-existent. We don't have an Edge player that can cause havoc like LSU. O is soft and 10 vs 11. ST horrible. Not a coach, but 50 plus year season ticket holder. Have seen plenty of them at State and this is a bad team.
Agree with all that, but I don’t think this is a bad team. It is potentially a good team albeit 7-5/8-4 with the #2 SOS in the country and questions on the O line. We all knew that before the season began but got a lil giddy with all the “10-2 or it’s a failure” talk.
This is where the coaches earn their money. There will have to be some changes made at reciever, maybe right tackle and some defensive adjustments. More Banks instead of Duncan in passing situations for one. Just too soft overall, especially at receiver.
Against running q bs I wouldn’t mind seeing substitution for Jett in obvious passing situations/3rd down. Walley should be playing over Harvey. I thought Duck looked soft.
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Originally Posted by
WhiskeyPirate
Agree with all that, but I don’t think this is a bad team. It is potentially a good team albeit 7-5/8-4 with the #2 SOS in the country and questions on the O line. We all knew that before the season began but got a lil giddy with all the “10-2 or it’s a failure” talk.
This is where the coaches earn their money. There will have to be some changes made at reciever, maybe right tackle and some defensive adjustments. More Banks instead of Duncan in passing situations for one. Just too soft overall, especially at receiver.
Against running q bs I wouldn’t mind seeing substitution for Jett in obvious passing situations/3rd down. Walley should be playing over Harvey. I thought Duck looked soft.
Jaden Walley has to be the most dissapointing player since Dan Mullen left. At the end of 2020 I thought he was going to eventually be an all sec guy. He played so good those last 4 games of the 2020 season. \
I guess him having a child ruined his future football career.
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Originally Posted by
Goldendawg
Charlton is more of a DE, but our D, especially LB's are very slow by SEC standards. Safety play is again very bad in pass D. DE's were hyped pre-season and unless it is the scheme our pass rush/sacks are almost non-existent. We don't have an Edge player that can cause havoc like LSU. O is soft and 10 vs 11. ST horrible. Not a coach, but 50 plus year season ticket holder. Have seen plenty of them at State and this is a bad team.
It amazes me how we can send the house and not get home. It’s what happened on the fourth down play to Nabors
Last edited by Bdawg; 09-18-2022 at 05:41 PM.
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Originally Posted by
PikeDawg15
We will beat auburn and pray we can beat 1 more sec team get to a bowl.
Bryce young - run threat
Jayden Daniels - run threat
Jaxson dart - run threat
Kj Jefferson - run threat
Max johnson - run threat
Tj finley - run threat
Will Rogers - sack threat .
You would trade Rogers for all those guys? You're nuts. He played bad. Yes. But he's better than several young listed.
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Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
Keep burying your head in the sand and thinking this offense will work. Against any defense with a pulse IT WILL NOT. We have maybe 3 SEC players on offense and 5 on defense.
That's why I said he is not put in a position to succeed. I've been against this scheme since the start.
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Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
Keep burying your head in the sand and thinking this offense will work. Against any defense with a pulse IT WILL NOT. We have maybe 3 SEC players on offense and 5 on defense.
I will disagree with you on the air raid part . The air raid has proven it can work , it has beat really good defenses since leach got here. I strongly disagree with you there ,
Our problem is this
1. Will Rogers is the most immobile starting QB in the southeastern conference. Mike wright at VANDERBILT is way more mobile than him. If he faces pressure , it?s a sack. LSU won that game because their QB can scramble for 15 yards at any given moment .
2. We have one good receiver that could start at another sec west school and his name is rara Thomas.
Sawyer has to be given a chance . If we can?t improve with a mobile quarterback in this offense then it?s time to get in on the Hugh freeze sweepstakes ( I think a mobile QB would make this offense amazing ) but will Rogers is not that guy.
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Could not have said it better. Will has got to go. Can?t wait for everyone to tell me how he?ll break all these passing records but the fact is he will never win big here. This is on Leach too, you cannot build your offense for 3-4 years over a dude this immobile. It?s not the PAC-12, we?ve got to move on after this year
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Originally Posted by
MaroonFlounder
Will owned up and put the blame completely on himself postgame.
I hate it for him. He will have some better games, but not many more wins.
He?ll make a great coach but he?s not a good enough athlete to win big games unless those around him play great.
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Originally Posted by
ShotgunDawg
He?ll make a great coach but he?s not a good enough athlete to win big games unless those around him play great.
This is it. When you have a statue, you have to have stud OLmen against stud DLmen in the SEC. We ain?t got it across the board. Teams pick our worst man on the OL and exploit it. They did last night and we were stopped. The drops were just awful too. Killed our drives
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Originally Posted by
PikeDawg15
We will beat auburn and pray we can beat 1 more sec team get to a bowl.
Bryce young - run threat
Jayden Daniels - run threat
Jaxson dart - run threat
Kj Jefferson - run threat
Max johnson - run threat
Tj finley - run threat
Will Rogers - sack threat .
I see a trend
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Originally Posted by
ShotgunDawg
I see a trend
What sucks is will Rogers isn?t going to ever get drafted so he?s going to stay another 2 years.
Our fan base isn?t going to let leach stay that long if he doesn?t make a change at QB . If Robertson could be just slightly worse as a passer but he just some sort of running threat , it would open up so much for this offense.
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Rogers is VERY accurate.
But that is literally his only weapon. He’s a statue in the pocket. Holds the ball way too long when playing SEC level talent. I understand he might be a little fearful of contact but he’s got so much green he could easily run 4-6 yards and slide about every other play.
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Ok ... say you get your wish and Rogers goes .... are you gonna stand Sawyer and Parson or Lovertich up against a firing squad when they do worse or throw 4 interceptions?
Will and Leach had a bad game. Neither one of them muffed the punt that turned the momentum
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Leach is changing his system. He's running the ball more. I believe he is also going to utilize more of a dual threat QB with Sawyer and Parson. This offense is evolving. I'm not bailing on Leach until we see Sawyer run this offense. If it's more of the same as last night then it's definitely time to move on.
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Originally Posted by
TrapGame
Leach is changing his system. He's running the ball more. I believe he is also going to utilize more of a dual threat QB with Sawyer and Parson. This offense is evolving. I'm not bailing on Leach until we see Sawyer run this offense. If it's more of the same as last night then it's definitely time to move on.
This system on defense and on offense will not be at a consistent peak for 5 years. Not happening. That's because of the players we need to run both the Defense and Offense. We can not fall into the trap of rotating coaches every 2 to 3 years. It's program killing.
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Originally Posted by
BlackSailsDawg
This system on defense and on offense will not be at a consistent peak for 5 years. Not happening. That's because of the players we need to run both the Defense and Offense. We can not fall into the trap of rotating coaches every 2 to 3 years. It's program killing.
I'm not taking about next week. I'm talking Sawyer in this offense for at least a year. But I really think we aren't going to see The QB until Parson starts.
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Originally Posted by
TrapGame
I'm not taking about next week. I'm talking Sawyer in this offense for at least a year. But I really think we aren't going to see The QB until Parson starts.
Agree with you but right now I’ll tell you Locke is a classic air raid q b. Smart athletic enough and has a good arm. A lot of Leachs good q bs remind me of Locke. He’s probably going to get lost in the shuffle because as you said Parsons is the guy.
If we had just avg athleticism at q b the O lines job would be so much easier.
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Originally Posted by
TrapGame
I'm not taking about next week. I'm talking Sawyer in this offense for at least a year. But I really think we aren't going to see The QB until Parson starts.
And that will be in 5 years right. Let's assume Rogers stays another year. That will be the 2023 season and Sawyer takes over in 2024 as a Jr. Plays the 2024 season and Sr in 2025. That means Locke will start in 2026 as a Sr? And 2027 will be Parson. 5 years or so.
In the meantime, our WR room is getting better. But nobody is going to get us to the SECC without 2 major things while keeping everything else consistent;
- OL that are better than good
- DL that has speed on the edge
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