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    Quote Originally Posted by Cowbell View Post
    CC - it don't matter / this offense relies on perfect execution. Everything has to work just right. Well that ain't realistic. We need and offense that wins when you win more plays than you lose and make adjustments when someone is not executing.
    It doesn't require perfection. But it, like any offense, requires execution. 24/42 That's what the passing game produced. 57.14% How many drops do you think that is?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg View Post
    When the ball hits the players in the hands... It's Leach's fault.

    Leach's fault on a Muffed punt?


    Come on. It was a total effort to not win.
    The great thing about football is you have 60 minutes and multiple drives in each of the four quarters to make adjustments if something is not working or players are not executing. Or you can keep doing the same thing over and over hoping the execution improves and still make 5.5 million per year. This is leach in a nutshell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg View Post
    It doesn't require perfection. But it, like any offense, requires execution. 24/42 That's what the passing game produced. 57.14% How many drops do you think that is?
    60% completion in Mullins or Kiffins offense is enough to win most games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cowbell View Post
    CC - it don't matter / this offense relies on perfect execution. Everything has to work just right. Well that ain't realistic. We need and offense that wins when you win more plays than you lose and make adjustments when someone is not executing.
    Didn't require perfection tonight at all. It just required making simple plays. Catching wide open passes, Checking out of bad plays, hitting open receivers. That's not perfection that's football, and we didn't do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg View Post
    It doesn't require perfection. But it, like any offense, requires execution. 24/42 That's what the passing game produced. 57.14% How many drops do you think that is?
    And it us predicated on the qb and wrs to make very few mistakes. When you are throwing short yardage and never taking the top off it means you can't make mistakes and get behind the sticks or you will stall. Same thing that happened to the cowboys under Garrett. And I'm talking about against good defenses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Commercecomet24 View Post
    Didn't require perfection tonight at all. It just required making simple plays. Catching wide open passes, Checking out of bad plays, hitting open receivers. That's not perfection that's football, and we didn't do it.
    We also did not make scheme adjustments when execution was low. LSU did and thus the results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cowbell View Post
    We also did not make scheme adjustments when execution was low. LSU did and thus the results.
    If we made the plays that were there to be made it didn't matter. Drops aren't scheme, not checking out of bad plays is not scheme, fumbling punts is not scheme. It's real simple you make plays or you don't. Tonight was not about scheme it was about players not making routine plays

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_real_MSU_is_us View Post
    We'd have won if any of the 3 happen:

    1) Will plays a normal game. Not throwing behind receivers, making bad reads, looking scared- a normal game.

    2) WRs didn't drop literally about 10 passes. We left about 100 yards on the field in drops. There were literally 2 failed drives where both had 2 drops in a set of downs and made us punt. 4 drops in those 6 plays...

    3) we check our of the 4th down runs vs a stacked box and throw a slant. Again, see 1). We'd have gotten points an taken the crowd out.

    None of those are on Leach. Literally none. The ONLY thing I can put on leach is his failure to get our RT help when dealing with Ojulare.
    Absolutely correct. We crapped the bed when we had the chance to put pressure on them in the first half. But typically, we screwed it up and let them hang around and it cost us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Commercecomet24 View Post
    If we made the plays that were there to be made it didn't matter. Drops aren't scheme, not checking out of bad plays is not scheme, fumbling punts is not scheme. It's real simple you make plays or you don't. Tonight was not about scheme it was about players not making routine plays
    You can say that all you want CC but you have coached long enough to know better. Leach doesn't make adjustments to his offense hardly ever and so when something isn't working he can't jumpstart the team. Our right tackle got manhandled all night. Our receivers were blanketed in man coverage. A tight end in this offense or running an inside draw or inside screens would back the pressure off. Tight ends in the flat would kill it in this offense. A wr taking the top off would too. Running it down their throat would have worked had we had 11 personnel. It ain't rocket science. When players are getting beat you tinker with things until you find a mismatch that favors you. It's why leach will never beat good teams in this league and coaches like Kiffin will.

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    We just do not have a tough team. Not many bad dudes out there that other coaches worry about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Commercecomet24 View Post
    If we made the plays that were there to be made it didn't matter. Drops aren't scheme, not checking out of bad plays is not scheme, fumbling punts is not scheme. It's real simple you make plays or you don't. Tonight was not about scheme it was about players not making routine plays
    THANK YOU everyone keeps trying to make this about the scheme but it's as simple as execution. We had drives end because or plural drops in the same set of downs... we had 75 yards of KO return wasted on an irrelevant hold... we gifted them a TD with the muffed punt... we generated zero pressure on defense... our LB spy couldn't keep up with the QB... our DBs lost every battle with LSU's WRs... Will was inaccurate all game and the INT should have been a TD... our RT got destroyed all game... OK that last one is on leach for not getting him help. RBs, Dolla Bill, the punter, and Rara are the only dudes that did good tonight. But we want to blame it on offensive scheme? Get outa here

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    Lets beat auburn to the Hugh Freeze auction

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    LSU runs 1 offensive play and they beat our ass. Drop back to pass, scramble, then run.

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    Rara had the worst drop of the entire game

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    Quote Originally Posted by PikeDawg15 View Post
    Lets beat auburn to the Hugh Freeze auction
    Here! Here!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB**** View Post
    The stupidest thing we did coaching wise was running inside zone vs double edge on 4th and 1. Arnett beating his head against the wall playing 3 safeties who cant cover instead of just subbing one of our 6 CBs in to do it. Our scheme on defense will never stop a passing game. But the biggest problem was just on the offense. Drops mainly. They beat our WRs ass
    Our safety play against the pass is no better than last year, but there is plenty of blame to go around tonight. Coaches and players.

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    Let’s just hire Clawson and be done with all this fussing around. We should’ve done it in 2018 but didn’t. Dude has 2nd best record in the ACC in the last few years with the 2nd worst talent. Give him a couple years and we are annoying to deal with for Bama and UGA and definitely 3rd in the SEC at worst.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_real_MSU_is_us View Post
    We'd have won if any of the 3 happen:

    1) Will plays a normal game. Not throwing behind receivers, making bad reads, looking scared- a normal game.

    2) WRs didn't drop literally about 10 passes. We left about 100 yards on the field in drops. There were literally 2 failed drives where both had 2 drops in a set of downs and made us punt. 4 drops in those 6 plays...

    3) we check our of the 4th down runs vs a stacked box and throw a slant. Again, see 1). We'd have gotten points an taken the crowd out.

    None of those are on Leach. Literally none. The ONLY thing I can put on leach is his failure to get our RT help when dealing with Ojulare.
    We have two OT's starting that are very new to the position, among other issues team wide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldendawg View Post
    We have two OT's starting that are very new to the position, among other issues team wide.
    And its the Coachs' responsibility to provide them with help.

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    Cry me a river on the OT. They are who we have. They need to get their asses in gear and man up.

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