I've Officially Jumped Ship

[dawgday166]

You're wrong about croom not leaving Dan talent. 20 players on that 2009 team played in the nfl. Dan had plenty of talent.

I was just contemplating posting this. The Oline Croom left behind was probably Dan's best Oline until 2017. There were 2 very good NFL players at least on that Oline maybe 3 ... not sure I'd have to go check.

[R2Dawg]

You're wrong about croom not leaving Dan talent. 20 players on that 2009 team played in the nfl. Dan had plenty of talent.

Yeah I agree. I guess I meant those that were playing and contributing. They were all very young that did big things later. Croom gets some credit I guess although we know what kind of recruiter Croom was.

[Commercecomet24]

I was just contemplating posting this. The Oline Croom left behind was probably Dan's best Oline until 2017. There were 2 very good NFL players at least on that Oline maybe 3 ... not sure I'd have to go check.

And the defense was loaded with nfl talent. Now skill position players were lacking accept for Dixon and Ducre, but ol, rbs and defense were talented.

ETA even the 2 deep on that ol was talented.

[Commercecomet24]

I actually agree with this post. Stop posting about Dan freaking Mullen.

Amen! He's gone and he screwed us when he left.

[Barkman Turner Overdrive]

Amen! He's gone and he screwed us when he left.

And he is NOT coming back. Neither party is interested in the other. I seriously doubt Dopey Dan would even take a phone call from Cohen.

[Commercecomet24]

Yeah I agree. I guess I meant those that were playing and contributing. They were all very young that did big things later. Croom gets some credit I guess although we know what kind of recruiter Croom was.

Yeah he left us with defense, ol, rbs but the most important position of qb was brutal(although mullen made relf serviceable) the wr position was horrendous, although Brandon McRae stayed on an nfl roster for a couple years. Croom was just pretty much bad all the way around

[R2Dawg]

Yeah he left us with defense, ol, rbs but the most important position of qb was brutal(although mullen made relf serviceable) the wr position was horrendous, although Brandon McRae stayed on an nfl roster for a couple years. Croom was just pretty much bad all the way around

Dan made us competitive with Tyson Lee first then Relf delivered the Egg Bowl blow.

I don't remember many on the Croom D that played that made the NFL, maybe a few. I think most were young players that came up later and developed.

[BlackSailsDawg]

Dan made us competitive with Tyson Lee first then Relf delivered the Egg Bowl blow.

I don't remember many on the Croom D that played that made the NFL, maybe a few. I think most were young players that came up later and developed.

Dan left us empty. Dan won 7 game per year. It took dan from 2009 to 2014 to crap the bed with his best team against bama and then Ole Miss. He never reach that again.

[Really Clark?]

Bringing back a coach hardly ever works. Really can't think of one in the modern era. Liked Mullen when he was here but when a coach leaves, it's better to not try relive past success. Mack Brown is trying at NC but I don't see them playing like they did at his peak.

[msudawglb]

I'm not going to pile on the current coach or praise a past coach. In just looking at this current team, we have some glaring issues. Our LB's are slow. Teams that utilize speed side to side will kill us. This is mostly why Ole Miss has been beating us. We have ZERO pass rush. Our mostly 3 star and occasional 4 star DL is not getting it done. Having an offense that does not utilize a mobile QB is bad. Two problems here. Our current starter is the slowest person I've ever seen and our coach will not utilize a mobile QB (if we had one). I don't have problem with the offense, but damn, if we had a QB that could keep it and run at least 5 times a game, things would open up more for the WR. And the WR's can't catch a damn cold. So many crucial drops.

1) Mobile QB with some occasional runs
2) Pressure the QB with better DL
3) Faster LB's
4) WR's who can catch a pass

We are a 6-6 team at best. If we had those above, we are a 10-2 team.

[PikeDawg15]

I'm not going to pile on the current coach or praise a past coach. In just looking at this current team, we have some glaring issues. Our LB's are slow. Teams that utilize speed side to side will kill us. This is mostly why Ole Miss has been beating us. We have ZERO pass rush. Our mostly 3 star and occasional 4 star DL is not getting it done. Having an offense that does not utilize a mobile QB is bad. Two problems here. Our current starter is the slowest person I've ever seen and our coach will not utilize a mobile QB (if we had one). I don't have problem with the offense, but damn, if we had a QB that could keep it and run at least 5 times a game, things would open up more for the WR. And the WR's can't catch a damn cold. So many crucial drops.

1) Mobile QB with some occasional runs
2) Pressure the QB with better DL
3) Faster LB's
4) WR's who can catch a pass

We are a 6-6 team at best. If we had those above, we are a 10-2 team.

#1 is the biggest problem. It just is and people will defend Will like he's their son. But damn if you look around the country it seems like everyone from Alabama to East New Mexico A&M has a QB that can scramble out of the pocket when the pocket collapses, look downfield , decide whether to throw or run for positive yards. We are the only school in the SEC that cant do that and its like trying to run with a Cinder Block Chained to your leg.

[Commercecomet24]

Bringing back a coach hardly ever works. Really can't think of one in the modern era. Liked Mullen when he was here but when a coach leaves, it's better to not try relive past success. Mack Brown is trying at NC but I don't see them playing like they did at his peak.

It's rare that it works very true. Bill Snyder and Chris Ault both were successful in their second terms at HC at KSU and Nevada but I can't think of any others

[Really Clark?]

It's rare that it works very true. Bill Snyder and Chris Ault both were successful in their second terms at HC at KSU and Nevada but I can't think of any others

I remembered Ault but was thinking of P5 programs. He actually coached them 3 different times I believe. Forgot Synder though. Not quite as good as the first time through but pretty dang close.

[Commercecomet24]

Dan made us competitive with Tyson Lee first then Relf delivered the Egg Bowl blow.

I don't remember many on the Croom D that played that made the NFL, maybe a few. I think most were young players that came up later and developed.

11 players on the 2 deep on that 2009 defense made nfl rosters. Johnathan Banks, Jamar Chaney, KJ Wright, Chris White, Kyle Love, Josh Boyd, Pernell McPhee, Fletcher Cox, Charles Mitchell, Corey Broomfield, Cameron Lawrence. That 2 deep was loaded with talent. Banks, Broomfield, Chaney, Wright, White, Boyd, Love, McPhee, Mitchell were all starters. 9 starters made nfl rosters and most played for years.

[Tater]

11 players on the 2 deep on defense made nfl rosters. Johnathan Banks, Jamar Chaney, KJ Wright, Chris White, Kyle Love, Josh Boyd, Pernell McPhee, Fletcher Cox, Charles Mitchell, Cameron Lawrence. That 2 deep was loaded with talent. Banks, Chaney, Wright, White, Boyd, Love, McPhee, Mitchell were all starters. 8 starters made nfl rosters and most played for years.

2010 with Cam is an undefeated team. Sickening not to give him the money considering where the sport has gone since.

[dawgday166]

2010 with Cam is an undefeated team. Sickening not to give him the money considering where the sport has gone since.

If we had done that, made the NC game, and it came out the couple of weeks before NC game .... NCAA would've booted our ass out of NC game and stuck Bama in it. And the SEC would've been behind that 100%.

[BlackSailsDawg]

2010 with Cam is an undefeated team. Sickening not to give him the money considering where the sport has gone since.

YEP!!!!!

[Commercecomet24]

I remembered Ault but was thinking of P5 programs. He actually coached them 3 different times I believe. Forgot Synder though. Not quite as good as the first time through but pretty dang close.

Yeah there haven't been many that made it good the second time around. I really liked Ault, he could coach.

[Commercecomet24]

2010 with Cam is an undefeated team. Sickening not to give him the money considering where the sport has gone since.

100% agree. The amount of talent on the defensive side of the ball and the ol would've been hard to beat!

[Really Clark?]

Yeah there haven't been many that made it good the second time around. I really liked Ault, he could coach.

Yes he could