A few football thoughts....

[confucius say]

Yep. Years ago I used to think it didn't matter, but the evidence is clear that SEC experience, especially in this day and age is absolutely critical.

I think it depends more on the coach and the fit. Leach hadn't been in the sec in 20+ years and is doing fine. Saban didn't have sec experience before lsu. I think Lincoln Riley could win in the sec. That said, sec experience certainly doesn't hurt. But getting the right guy is more important imo.

[Commercecomet24]

I think it depends more on the coach and the fit. Leach hadn't been in the sec in 20+ years and is doing fine. Saban didn't have sec experience before lsu. I think Lincoln Riley could win in the sec. That said, sec experience certainly doesn't hurt. But getting the right guy is more important imo.

Getting the right guy is definitely the most important but there has been to many HC without SEC experience that have flamed out.

[confucius say]

Yea I do think there is something to understanding the league and what is important. Especially in the trenches.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Didn?t will complete something like 90% in his game against kentucky?

[Schultzy]

TrapGame is Hugh’s side piece.

[TrapGame]

TrapGame is Hugh’s side piece.

Shit, you found me out Ace.

[Schultzy]

I'm looking forward to the after game reports when some of you have to eat crow when the Airbone is carving up defenses.

Yeah, this offense requires rb?s who can break one tackle per series, we don?t have any.

6-6 but it?s a bowl game.

[Todd4State]

I'll concur with that one. While I don't recall a significant crowd being strongly displeased with the hire at the time, all the signs that exactly what happened would happen were there about as clearly as any similar situation in recent memory.

I don't think we had any way of knowing that. He was a head coach at Fordham and was fine there. And sure- different culture and he had a ton of advantages there given the other teams in that league. It wasn't a fit also because of the players we had. They needed someone that was a disciplinarian but on other teams someone is more laid back may have been a better fit. It definitely wasn't a fit for us.

It was really a tricky situation when you think about it. We had a veteran team coming back. Had we brought in an Urban Meyer guy or say someone like Shane Beamer and then hired Rich Rodriguez to go with Bob Shoop as coordinators that probably would have worked much better in hindsight. But then long term how would that work out for us? If we had hired Leach at that time and brought in Minchew a lot of our fans would have been upset that we would be essentially cutting Fitzgerald coming off of a bad injury which was a cheap shot. And knowing MSU fans- we get pretty upset if one of our own is done wrong even if it's for the best for MSU. See Tommy Raffo.

Yep. Cohen was obviously trying to repeat the Dan Mullen formula with Joe, but the SEC experience/lack of proved to be a crucial difference.

As others have said- I have no idea why Cohen took the advice of the people he did. Kind of shows how tone deaf MSU's athletic department is regarding former personnel here.

Yep. And I don't think Kelly is going to work out at LSU.

We'll see. He may be fine there. I think this year they'll definitely take their lumps some.

Yep. Years ago I used to think it didn't matter, but the evidence is clear that SEC experience, especially in this day and age is absolutely critical.

Absolutely. I'm actually excited about the next two seasons because of what we potentially return. We were in basically every game last year except for Alabama and managed to win a few with a team of mostly sophomores.

[Todd4State]

Getting the right guy is definitely the most important but there has been to many HC without SEC experience that have flamed out.

Harsin was always a weird fit at Auburn. I don't think he's a bad coach but he fits in better somewhere like Nevada.

Yeah, this offense requires rb?s who can break one tackle per series, we don?t have any.

6-6 but it?s a bowl game.

I think our running backs will be better this year. And we'll get to see Hargrove and Simeon Price more. Last year our number three running back was a walk-on.

[Cowbell]

Yeah, this offense requires rb?s who can break one tackle per series, we don?t have any.

6-6 but it?s a bowl game.

You can't break tackles when you are getting blown up before you can get your feet set after a catch. Defenses know how to make us dump it down - they force us to do that - and they time it to blow up our rb after 2-3 yards.