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    Assuming the spirit world doesn't grab us by the balls, the success of this year's team will depend on the coaching staff and their motivational skills. Player experience and talent is there. If the coaches can amp the confidence level up
    we will be a load to handle. I think we need to skull drag Memphis and Arizona for the Leach train to build the momentum to plow through the season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TaleofTwoDogs View Post
    Assuming the spirit world doesn't grab us by the balls, the success of this year's team will depend on the coaching staff and their motivational skills. Player experience and talent is there. If the coaches can amp the confidence level up
    we will be a load to handle. I think we need to skull drag Memphis and Arizona for the Leach train to build the momentum to plow through the season.
    The success of this team depends on the left tackle and the right tackle. We should be good on defense. We are good at the skill positions. Leach is going to run his scheme. So it comes down to protection

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    Quote Originally Posted by TaleofTwoDogs View Post
    Assuming the spirit world doesn't grab us by the balls, the success of this year's team will depend on the coaching staff and their motivational skills. Player experience and talent is there. If the coaches can amp the confidence level up
    we will be a load to handle. I think we need to skull drag Memphis and Arizona for the Leach train to build the momentum to plow through the season.
    It will depend more on how our tackles BLOCK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoopsDawg View Post
    The success of this team depends on the left tackle and the right tackle. We should be good on defense. We are good at the skill positions. Leach is going to run his scheme. So it comes down to protection
    This all day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by parabrave View Post
    This all day.
    Agreed, it's whether these tackles can do it or not. I think they can. I know Leach has recruited well since he as been here along the OL but those guys are young. OL guys can take 2-3 years before they can handle the SEC. Even top JuCo's OL that end up in the NFL take a year of seeing it to get up to speed.

    One good thing, these OL are seeing good DL in practice all during the spring and fall camps. They won't see the next level talent for a few more weeks and by then maybe they will be better prepared.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hot Rock View Post
    Agreed, it's whether these tackles can do it or not. I think they can. I know Leach has recruited well since he as been here along the OL but those guys are young. OL guys can take 2-3 years before they can handle the SEC. Even top JuCo's OL that end up in the NFL take a year of seeing it to get up to speed.

    One good thing, these OL are seeing good DL in practice all during the spring and fall camps. They won't see the next level talent for a few more weeks and by then maybe they will be better prepared.
    And if Leach incorporates a running game, esp inside the 20. Like he did in the KY game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by parabrave View Post
    And if Leach incorporates a running game, esp inside the 20. Like he did in the KY game.
    Steve said on one of the Bone Yard podcasts that Leach has talked to Riley and Kingsbury about how they utilize the run game in their version of the AR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrapGame View Post
    Steve said on one of the Bone Yard podcasts that Leach has talked to Riley and Kingsbury about how they utilize the run game in their version of the AR.
    Again, the offensive line will be key here as well, can they pass block for 50 plays and run block for 25 and be successful? 1 thing is for sure, with this offense we cannot average 24 points per game and expect to go 9-3 or even 8-4. This offense has to average in the 30?s for that kind of success, regardless of how good our defense is. In this league, there are a lot of good offenses that will make plays against good defenses. Even Forbes and Emerson got beat last year several times.

    Pass Rush! Pass Rush! Pass Rush! That is the other key. So as always, it comes din to how good your lines are on both sides of the ball.

    8-4 would be a very good season. We don?t play in the No Defense Big 12 or the Top Heavy PAC 12. 8-4 would be equivalent to 10-2 in those leagues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrapGame View Post
    Steve said on one of the Bone Yard podcasts that Leach has talked to Riley and Kingsbury about how they utilize the run game in their version of the AR.
    I'm not sure what there was to talk about. Riley doesn't use the wide splits. And Kingbury has a mobile QB. If Leach doesn't tighten the splits, we won't have much of a run game other than what we've seen the past 2 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainObvious View Post
    Again, the offensive line will be key here as well, can they pass block for 50 plays and run block for 25 and be successful? 1 thing is for sure, with this offense we cannot average 24 points per game and expect to go 9-3 or even 8-4. This offense has to average in the 30?s for that kind of success, regardless of how good our defense is. In this league, there are a lot of good offenses that will make plays against good defenses. Even Forbes and Emerson got beat last year several times.

    Pass Rush! Pass Rush! Pass Rush! That is the other key. So as always, it comes din to how good your lines are on both sides of the ball.

    8-4 would be a very good season. We don?t play in the No Defense Big 12 or the Top Heavy PAC 12. 8-4 would be equivalent to 10-2 in those leagues.
    All we need is average LT play to have a good season. I understand this is the hill the haters have decided to die upon.

    Quote Originally Posted by HoopsDawg View Post
    I'm not sure what there was to talk about. Riley doesn't use the wide splits. And Kingbury has a mobile QB. If Leach doesn't tighten the splits, we won't have much of a run game other than what we've seen the past 2 years.
    Leach ran the ball more at Tech b/c he had Baron Batch. Splits didn't matter. Batch could tote the rock. We've got two experienced backs in peak physical shape. We're going to run the ball more. Everyone needs to revisit the Texas Tech 2008 season. They ran the ball a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    7-5 will be very underwhelming
    It will be underwhelming but not necessarily terrible, depending on how we compete in the losses. I really think we're a 10 win team except for an Achilles heal at the OT spots. That and a ridiculous schedule could mean 7-5.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrapGame View Post
    All we need is average LT play to have a good season. I understand this is the hill the haters have decided to die upon.



    Leach ran the ball more at Tech b/c he had Baron Batch. Splits didn't matter. Batch could tote the rock. We've got two experienced backs in peak physical shape. We're going to run the ball more. Everyone needs to revisit the Texas Tech 2008 season. They ran the ball a lot.
    Defenses, especially personnel have changed a lot since 14 years ago. Washington created the blueprint and Leach hasn't adjusted. The SEC has the most athletic Dlinemen in the county. Gotta be able to block 3 with 5. We'll see.

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    I hope all the off season work that Dolla put in in the off season pays off. He was often a penalty machine last year. With him at LT and Jones at RT, that is two seniors starting. That is about the most experience you can put on the field except for someone else's grad transfer. We will need a few younger players to step up quick for depth. Remember, Lashley didn't sniff the field at bama except or ST and a little backup duty, yet he transfers to us and was an immediate starter. Didn't say much to OT readiness last year. Hail State!

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoopsDawg View Post
    Defenses, especially personnel have changed a lot since 14 years ago. Washington created the blueprint and Leach hasn't adjusted. The SEC has the most athletic Dlinemen in the county. Gotta be able to block 3 with 5. We'll see.
    Texas was dropping 8 and rushing 3 in 2008.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldendawg View Post
    I hope all the off season work that Dolla put in in the off season pays off. He was often a penalty machine last year. With him at LT and Jones at RT, that is two seniors starting. That is about the most experience you can put on the field except for someone else's grad transfer. We will need a few younger players to step up quick for depth. Remember, Lashley didn't sniff the field at bama except or ST and a little backup duty, yet he transfers to us and was an immediate starter. Didn't say much to OT readiness last year. Hail State!
    ??? OT play killed us against Ole Miss. We struggled with false starts all year, I think primarily because Lashley had trouble handling decently quick DEs that he was always on a hair trigger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoopsDawg View Post
    Defenses, especially personnel have changed a lot since 14 years ago. Washington created the blueprint and Leach hasn't adjusted. The SEC has the most athletic Dlinemen in the county. Gotta be able to block 3 with 5. We'll see.
    What you think dropping eight is a new blue print ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiskeyPirate View Post
    What you think dropping eight is a new blue print ?
    Teams are much more comfortable playing with extra DBs. Nobody runs a 4-3 anymore

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    7-5 will be very underwhelming
    With our talent level, with Leach as our coach (he always loses one he should win), in the SEC, with our schedule - 6-6 is very realistic and 7-5 should be considered a major accomplishment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoopsDawg View Post
    Teams are much more comfortable playing with extra DBs. Nobody runs a 4-3 anymore
    .......and
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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiskeyPirate View Post
    What you think dropping eight is a new blue print ?
    For LSU it was.

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