I?ll never forgive MOORHEAD

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Ha, probably true.

Everyone debating who was worse Croom or Moorhead is funny. They were both two of worst coaches in SEC history - both at MSU. They were both bad for different reasons.

Exactly. They were both terrible head coaches and hires for different reasons. Time to put that argument to bed. We now have a good coach that is trying to fix the problems and develop a new system while also going up against a brutal schedule for the 3rd year in a row. 2018 is just a lot more frustrating than anything during the Croom error because we had no talent or expectations going into any of the Croom seasons the way we did with Moorhead in 2018.

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Took over a Ferrari? These are the kind of statements that just don't make sense to me. And I say that respectfully.... How was the 2017 team that Mullen left behind a Ferrari? We had a very good defense returning but Defense only makes up a part of a football team, Offense and Special teams play a huge part also.... Look at the 2017 schedule, our best wins were #12 LSU, TAMU and Arky that year.....we lost against Georgia, Auburn, Bama and Ole Miss and finished at 9-4 which was a solid finish for us...but not a Ferrari

Very good? You mean elite. He took over the best defense in the country. Three first rounders. Nobody had more.
He took over a three year starter at qb who is the best running qb ever in the league, an nfl back, Aries, and a veteran OL with an all pro center.

Honestly there are coaches on this board who could have taken over that team and did better than 8-4.