Prayers for Brandon Football and Family

[Extendedcab]

I don't remember kids dropping dead in the 60s and 70s, when I grew up. They may have and we just never heard about it since that was the days before 1000 TV channels and the Internet. If it is the case that kids did not drop dead in times past, then what has changed? Is it too much indoor time as a kid, contaminated environment or other?

Thoughts?

[Liverpooldawg]

I don't remember kids dropping dead in the 60s and 70s, when I grew up. They may have and we just never heard about it since that was the days before 1000 TV channels and the Internet. If it is the case that kids did not drop dead in times past, then what has changed? Is it too much indoor time as a kid, contaminated environment or other?

Thoughts?

HS Football started in mid-September back then.

[Extendedcab]

HS Football started in mid-September back then.

But pre-season practice started in August - the hottest month in MS.

[Liverpooldawg]

But pre-season practice started in August - the hottest month in MS.

And it starts in July now.

[Coach34]

HS Football started in mid-September back then.

That?s not true. I know since the 70?s football started the 1st Monday of August and you played your first game on the 4th Friday of August.

[Liverpooldawg]

That?s not true. I know since the 70?s football started the 1st Monday of August and you played your first game on the 4th Friday of August.

When I was a little kid in the 60s it started in mid September. I think it stayed that way till at least the mid 70s. My Dad was an ex coach and still was announcing then. Fact remains if they REALLY wanted to do something about the heat in football they would push the season back at LEAST a month. This farce of starting the games at 7:30 instead of 7 is just that, a farce. Practice is where almost all the problems happen.

[Johnson85]

When I was a little kid in the 60s it started in mid September. I think it stayed that way till at least the mid 70s. My Dad was an ex coach and still was announcing then. Fact remains if they REALLY wanted to do something about the heat in football they would push the season back at LEAST a month. This farce of starting the games at 7:30 instead of 7 is just that, a farce. Practice is where almost all the problems happen.

Moving football back a month isn't going to happen. I think it would probably help to practice earlier and shorter, but then you're taking up even more of the coaches and players summers. Maybe they could allow coaches to do mandatory conditioning throughout the summer, provided it's structured where students can at least have two full weeks off if they want it. Require that the mandatory conditioning be no more than an hour, no pads, and has to be finished before 10 or start after 4.

Alternatively (or in addition), they could just put more restrictions on temperature. May not be feasible to prevent practice in hot conditions, but maybe limit the time of practice if heat index is above a certain amount. I assume teams already more or less practice early morning or late afternoon, but maybe put requirements around that to keep people out of the hottest time of day.

[DownwardDawg]

When I was a little kid in the 60s it started in mid September. I think it stayed that way till at least the mid 70s. My Dad was an ex coach and still was announcing then. Fact remains if they REALLY wanted to do something about the heat in football they would push the season back at LEAST a month. This farce of starting the games at 7:30 instead of 7 is just that, a farce. Practice is where almost all the problems happen.

Agreed

[SteelCurtain74]

From the kid's picture on Facebook, he was a big boy. Very sad situation.

[confucius say]

Not sure if this was heat related or not.

But regardless, I've been saying for a few years that HS and college football and baseball should be pushed back a month each. At least 2-3 weeks.

[MaroonFlounder]

I think the high yesterday wasn't even 90 degrees.

They are going to say it was heat related. I don't buy it.

The shots killed my aunt. Too many people who are otherwise healthy are losing their lives soon after the shots.

At this point it should not be taboo to question the safety of the shots. I think it depends on blood type/DNA structure as far as who suffers from adverse effects. Studies should be ongoing, at least I hope so.

[parabrave]

In 1978, graduated in 79, our 1st week was in helmets, shoulder pads and shorts. Lots of non contact running and blocking sled drills.

[somebodyshotmypaw]

Something has changed. Because you would think these things would happen less today. We are more educated on hydration, nutrition, etc. today. Our coaches in the 80's thought water caused cramping, so we weren't allowed to drink any during practices. I'm thinking it is lack of heat acclimation, i.e. too much sitting in the AC all summer. But I don't know.

[Johnson85]

Something has changed. Because you would think these things would happen less today. We are more educated on hydration, nutrition, etc. today. Our coaches in the 80's thought water caused cramping, so we weren't allowed to drink any during practices. I'm thinking it is lack of heat acclimation, i.e. too much sitting in the AC all summer. But I don't know.

I'm not sure that anything has changed because I'm not sure more kids are dying today. I think you just didn't necessarily hear about deaths pre-internet unless it was at a school you played against. But if it has, an obvious candidate would just be more obese players. I assume the percent of obese players hasn't shot up like it has in the general population of kids, but surely it has moved up some.

The other obvious candidate, as mentioned, would just be lack of acclimation to the heat because players spend less time outdoors.

[somebodyshotmypaw]

I'm not sure that anything has changed because I'm not sure more kids are dying today. I think you just didn't necessarily hear about deaths pre-internet unless it was at a school you played against. .

That's a valid point.

[DownwardDawg]

Something has changed. Because you would think these things would happen less today. We are more educated on hydration, nutrition, etc. today. Our coaches in the 80's thought water caused cramping, so we weren't allowed to drink any during practices. I'm thinking it is lack of heat acclimation, i.e. too much sitting in the AC all summer. But I don't know.

Yes. See my post in this thread. Kids aren't doing the same stuff these days. We all stayed outside all summer. Kids today stay inside and while they do workout, they sit most of the time playing games and watching their phones.

[Cowbell]

I feel like we have prayed for Brandon over the loss of a young man for the last three years (others were car wrecks maybe?) - super tough on young people - prayers for them.

[Jack Lambert]

Probably should say the prayers for Pearl as well. My son said he just transferred into Brandon from Pearl. No one in the school really knew him.

[PGHBulldogBG]

I got the first two shots but I don?t plan on getting anymore for COVID. I had it in January and had minor symptoms but it was more a cold. Once again, this is a case of Republican extremes and Democrat extremes looking for arguments. I think the vaccine would?ve been more beneficial for the original COVID but after the mutations it weakened. I think some people might have reactions but I know a ton of people that got the shot and nothing happened.

[DownwardDawg]

I got the first two shots but I don?t plan on getting anymore for COVID. I had it in January and had minor symptoms but it was more a cold. Once again, this is a case of Republican extremes and Democrat extremes looking for arguments. I think the vaccine would?ve been more beneficial for the original COVID but after the mutations it weakened. I think some people might have reactions but I know a ton of people that got the shot and nothing happened.

Due to cancer treatments and oncologist recommendations, I've had both shots and a booster. Since then I've had confirmed Covid twice and another suspected case. Needless to say, I'm done with any shots for Covid.