Skenes just announced LSU

[Coach34]

We just lost this one. That's all it comes down to.

Personally, I think the answer is to get a new pitching coach. But whatever.

GTFO with that bullshit. When it came down to us and LSU- there is not one mf’er anywhere that sincerely thought we would win that battle. Not one. I know we didn’t offer him 250K- and we both know that probably the minimum LSU offered.

It was never a battle. We were never going to get him. That’s NIL today and it sux because now it’s getting us in baseball. The one sport we used to be able to be a Big Dawg. Except we aren’t now

[Todd4State]

GTFO with that bullshit. When it came down to us and LSU- there is not one mf’er anywhere that sincerely thought we would win that battle. Not one. I know we didn’t offer him 250K- and we both know that probably the minimum LSU offered.

It was never a battle. We were never going to get him. That’s NIL today and it sux because now it’s getting us in baseball. The one sport we used to be able to be a Big Dawg. Except we aren’t now

You're telling me that our fans will spend money- thousands of dollars- to sit in condos in left field and spend thousands on our team including following them to freaking Nebraska in droves but we're not going to spend on NIL for baseball? Right.

Here's the real problem with MSU. It takes us getting kicked in the nuts for things to happen. We never take the lead.

Once he shoves it up our ass this spring Lemonis and Cohen will probably start some major NIL drive at baseball games by 2024 at the latest.

MSU is the worst at having fans and administration keeping their heads in the sand. Really the only question is how long we will keep our heads in the sand. Because with Polk it was about 20 years all told.

Ole Miss winning a National Championship might end up being one of the best things to happen to us because it will probably get our heads out of our asses quicker.

And let's be real here- let's say you're a MLB prospect. Do you want to play for the guy that was a MLB pitching coach or the guy that just had a plethora of Tommy John surgeries among other injuries and wasn't able to develop guys like Fristoe, Hunt, or Cerentola? This guy doesn't care about 250K from LSU or whatever MSU offered him. He cares about getting 2 million as a draft bonus and then getting millions upon millions as a MLB player.

[Hot Rock]

You're telling me that our fans will spend money- thousands of dollars- to sit in condos in left field and spend thousands on our team including following them to freaking Nebraska in droves but we're not going to spend on NIL for baseball? Right.

Here's the real problem with MSU. It takes us getting kicked in the nuts for things to happen. We never take the lead.

Once he shoves it up our ass this spring Lemonis and Cohen will probably start some major NIL drive at baseball games by 2024 at the latest.

MSU is the worst at having fans and administration keeping their heads in the sand. Really the only question is how long we will keep our heads in the sand. Because with Polk it was about 20 years all told.

Ole Miss winning a National Championship might end up being one of the best things to happen to us because it will probably get our heads out of our asses quicker.

And let's be real here- let's say you're a MLB prospect. Do you want to play for the guy that was a MLB pitching coach or the guy that just had a plethora of Tommy John surgeries among other injuries and wasn't able to develop guys like Fristoe, Hunt, or Cerentola? This guy doesn't care about 250K from LSU or whatever MSU offered him. He cares about getting 2 million as a draft bonus and then getting millions upon millions as a MLB player.

Blaming a player's current coach is a bit weird to me.

These injuries come from a lifetime of pitching. A person's arm is not designed to throw a baseball this hard and things tear.

It seems to me Foxhall seems to rest guys more than most and does more to protect pitchers than other coaches by not pitching them as often or sitting them at the first sign of soreness.

What am I missing? How are you blaming Foxhall for these injuries? As a novice, I really don't know baseball. I admit that even if I don't see it, doesn't mean it's not possible.

[ScoobaDawg]

That freaking sucks.

It's time to fix this problem.

[Coach34]

A) The problem is our fanbase thinks 100K is huge money. That’s just a starting point with the Big Boys in the SEC.

B) No pitching prospect looks at our 2022 pitching staff and thinks our pitching coach is a pitching guru. Those recruits have no idea what happened at State 5 years ago.

[Maroonthirteen]

The whole NIL stuff is just sickening. There is no loyalty. It is all about the money.

I heard a story of kid that signed with Arkansas.....life long Arkansas fan. LSU put money on the table. He was damn close to committing to LSU until Arkansas matched it. The number I heard was NOT 250 but 6 figures, none the less.

Anyways.....good luck Cigar boys. Because as far back as I can remember.....which is the "Thunder and Lightning" duo from west Point, Doug 20 Buckles on and on....State folds when the pot grows. It sucks.

[Dallas_Dawg]

The whole NIL stuff is just sickening.
Anyways.....good luck Cigar boys. Because as far back as I can remember.....which is the "Thunder and Lightning" duo from west Point, Doug 20 Buckles on and on....State folds when the pot grows. It sucks.

Who was thunder and lightning from WP and where did they end up?

[Coach34]

Who was thunder and lightning from WP and where did they end up?

I wanna say Sykes was lightning. Cant remember Thunder's name but seems like he was the better one of the two

[Maroonthirteen]

Btw, I will be rooting for anyone playing Texas AM football and lsu baseball this year. I hope they both choke and fall short, like Tennessee.

[confucius say]

For those of you who believe this came down to NIL, no complaining from you unless you've donated.

[ZedFedder]

For those of you who believe this came down to NIL, no complaining from you unless you've donated.

Some of us don’t have the means to donate.

[99jc]

Some of us don?t have the means to donate.

Everyone can afford 20 a month just cut out 1 trip to Burger King and eat some carrots. It has been my experience in life that people find a way to do what they want to do if it is important to them, unless you are a senior citizen on a fixed income.

[Maroonthirteen]

For those of you who believe this came down to NIL, no complaining from you unless you've donated.

This take is way off.

First, the true intention of NIL was NOT to create a flesh trade market fueled by extortion and greed. There are numerous other ways a person can support the university that are morally and ethically right. That person has skin in the game regardless.

[Goldendawg]

For those of you who believe this came down to NIL, no complaining from you unless you've donated.

Yep, we "Built It and They will Come" will not do it alone. Most SEC schools have good baseball facilities in the West especially. Now kids will grow up a NIL fan, not a MSU, OM, bama, AU fan, etc. Loyalty now begins with a $ign. Paying under the table days don't seem so bad now. Classic rock, muscle cars, and college sports gone as I knew them. But, I'll be there with 7 of my family for the Memphis FB game continuing 50 plus years of being season ticket holders. Hail State!

[AlSwearengen]

State people better pray for something to change concerning nil b/c as long as it is around, we will be on the hind tit. Pre-nil, it was scholarship advantages for other states and schools. Now, I’d wager that nil puts us at a bigger disadvantage. If Florida, whose fan base as a whole doesn’t support baseball, paid $250,000 or better for the usm pitcher, I’m not seeing any hope for MSU.

We can beat our chest about being a great fan base and great facilities, etc. but we don’t have the market cornered on all of that stuff. There are other schools that care about baseball too and they won’t be letting MSU outspend them.

[Patrick Tibbons]

We just lost this one. That's all it comes down to.

Personally, I think the answer is to get a new pitching coach. But whatever.

Your obsession with constantly shitting on Foxhall is becoming weird.

[Patrick Tibbons]

And let's be real here- let's say you're a MLB prospect. Do you want to play for the guy that was a MLB pitching coach or the guy that just had a plethora of Tommy John surgeries among other injuries and wasn't able to develop guys like Fristoe, Hunt, or Cerentola? This guy doesn't care about 250K from LSU or whatever MSU offered him. He cares about getting 2 million as a draft bonus and then getting millions upon millions as a MLB player.

Did you just use Tommy Johns surgery in an argument against Foxhall, when in the same sentence you are advocating for Wes Johnson? Haha wow.

[basedog]

As Todd would say, my two cents:

!) First off, as far as the NIL goes, not many schools except Lsu will go all out on baseball. We will be able to compete in this sport with NIL in the coming future.

2) Whether I like or dislike Fox, the one thing I am happy and grateful for is is handling of pitchers who are hurt or injured. He cares about the pitchers and their future.

3) Times are changing, want be long when there will be only 2 or 3 major conferences, thank our lucky charms we are in the Sec, our money situation being in the Sec will get even better. In saying this we will be able to "sustain" our status. We may not win a Natty in football or baseball, but we will always have a chance in baseball. I'm, not as concerned about the NIL in baseball.

[sandjunky]

Did you just use Tommy Johns surgery in an argument against Foxhall, when in the same sentence you are advocating for Wes Johnson? Haha wow.

In the last 2 -3 years which one had the most pitching issues - injuries and/or perceived lack of development

Because 1 just got a pay raise to leave MLB and coach college

[StarkVegasSteve]

This one did not come down to NIL. It came down to Wes Johnson. Now I have let my thoughts be known on Arm Murderer multiple times. The guy left around 15 arms needing Tommy John in 3 years between us and Arkansas but somehow kept getting better jobs. We could match anything LSU offered NIL wise, but this came down to Skenes wanting to work with Wes over Foxhall