2 Deep

[TrapGame]

I think it's just people that are butt hurt because Leach doesn't run their preferred offense.

That's so petulant and childish. As long as the offense works I don't care what we run. Mike Leach is an elite coach and we are lucky to have him.

[HancockCountyDog]

That's so petulant and childish. As long as the offense works I don't care what we run. Mike Leach is an elite coach and we are lucky to have him.

Look - I'm not the offense's biggest fan, but I'm a MSU fan first and I enjoyed the hell out of the AU game last year. We need more of that.

I did not enjoy the egg bowl, so less of that please.

I do think we need to something different at MSU to win, so if going true air raid is the route we have picked, then I hope like hell it works.

My biggest concern is that our defense has held up really well the last two years and after this year, we will lose a ton of talent and experience. Three and outs have not hurt us as much the last two years, because our defense has been solid. A bad defense is the worst case scenario for MSU in 2023, so we need to take advantage of what we have this year.

This is the most excited I have been about a season at MSU since 2018. I think we have a legit shot to win 10 games, a puncher's chance against UGA and no chance against the NFL team masquerading as a college team in Bama. Do I expect to win 10? Of course not, do I think when the ball is kicked off against Kentucky, A&M, Pigs and bearsharks that I think we are losing those games? Nope. At least not today.

Hope is a good thing - 2022 MSU football is full of hope.

[viverlibre]

Even Dave Bartoo thinks we will have one of the best Ds in the SEC. He thinks we could have a top 20 defense.

We have a WR stable like we've never had and an experienced QB that can get them ball.

I just don't get the Eeyore attitude from some of our "fans".

We lost two of our top four producers in the WR room, but we do have some potential. Hopefully, Will works on his release and gets the ball downfield quickly.

[Jarius]

We lost two of our top four producers in the WR room, but we do have some potential. Hopefully, Will works on his release and gets the ball downfield quickly.

Malik Heath was a backup player by the end of the year. He got his spot taken by a freshman.

[TrapGame]

We lost two of our top four producers in the WR room, but we do have some potential. Hopefully, Will works on his release and gets the ball downfield quickly.

WR-Jaden Walley, Austin Williams
WR-Tulu Griffin, Justin Robinson,Antonio Harmon
WR-Caleb Ducking, Rara Thomas
WR-Jamire Calvin, Jamorris Hopson

Nah, we good.

[BrunswickDawg]

WR-Jaden Walley, Austin Williams
WR-Tulu Griffin, Justin Robinson,Antonio Harmon
WR-Caleb Ducking, Rara Thomas
WR-Jamire Calvin, Jamorris Hopson

Nah, we good.

Don't forget my man Scoobie - he had the same YPC as Heath and did damn well for a walk on.

[viverlibre]

WR-Jaden Walley, Austin Williams
WR-Tulu Griffin, Justin Robinson,Antonio Harmon
WR-Caleb Ducking, Rara Thomas
WR-Jamire Calvin, Jamorris Hopson

Nah, we good.

Last year's contributors. A couple of our top guys are gone. Rara is obviously gonna step up, but I'm not overly excited about the big play ability of the group. Hopefully they show out, but one or two injuries and we could be in trouble.

Player Games Rec. YpC TDs
Makai Polk 13 105 10.0 9
Jaden Walley 13 55 11.4 6
Austin Williams 13 52 11.9 4
Malik Heath 10 34 13.0 5
Jamire Calvin 12 29 7.6 3
L Griffin 10 26 10.3 0
Christian Forde 7 19 13.0 0
Rara Thomas 7 18 14.0 5
Caleb Ducking 3 9 9.2 0
Rufus Harvey 3 5 7.8 1

[confucius say]

There will be 3 times more people attend our first game against Memphis than any baseball game we played in our entire history. We return 18 starters off a 7 win team. Anyone that is a State fan and not interested in this team just wants to be miserable.

Yea I don't get it. 8-4/7-5 just isn't exciting to our fanbase anymore.

[msudawg1200]

Yea I don't get it. 8-4/7-5 just isn't exciting to our fanbase anymore.

Now, I've just turned the big 5-0, so I remember the 4-7, 3-8 on the regular, and 10 years between bowl games. I guess our fanbase is frustrated that we haven't taken that next step to being a consistent 8-10 win team going to NY6 and Florida bowls on the regular. 2018 was the big kick in the sack for most(thanks JoMo). Hopefully, We can get to 9-3, and to a NY6 or Citrus Bowl.

[Goldendawg]

Yea I don't get it. 8-4/7-5 just isn't exciting to our fanbase anymore.

Will be exciting to me as long as one of the 8 or 7, is OM. BTW, did I miss something as I have been attending since 1963, just how many seasons of 9 or more regular season wins have we had? I am again excited and expect us to go 12-0 in the regular season until we lose a few! Hail State!

[Lord McBuckethead]

Yeah because 8-4 and 7-5 really doesn?t mean shit. We need 10 and to be competitive in the other 2. That is what matters.

[memsu06]

Before we start bashing Leach and our offense how about we see what happens? Then keep in mind our schedule is pretty brutal this year. Making 8 wins would actually be a good year considering.

Do you want to go back to Mullen QB draws on 3rd and long?

I now expect our receivers to catch the ball which is way different than Mullen where that was maybe 50/50.

Let Leach do his thing. It's not is first rodeo.

[Coach34]

Before we start bashing Leach and our offense how about we see what happens? Then keep in mind our schedule is pretty brutal this year. Making 8 wins would actually be a good year considering.

Do you want to go back to Mullen QB draws on 3rd and long?

I now expect our receivers to catch the ball which is way different than Mullen where that was maybe 50/50.

Let Leach do his thing. It's not is first rodeo.

There is so much wrong with this post I don’t have the time right now to donkeypunch it

[tcdog70]

I've seen Shira-Felker and Croom---so hell yes I'm excited for this Year.. the fact we get to play in the baddest ass division this side of the NFL--makes it an honor to play. we have some whiney ass pussies on the board.

[msudawg1200]

QB-Will Rogers, Sawyer Robinson
RB-Dillion Johnson, Jo'quavious Marks
WR-Jaden Walley, Austin Williams
WR-Tulu Griffin, Justin Robinson,Antonio Harmon
WR-Caleb Ducking, Rara Thomas
WR-Jamire Calvin, Jamorris Hopson
LT-Percy Lewis, Grant Jackson
LG-Nick Jones, Cole Smith
C-LaQuinston Sharp, Canon Boone
RG-Dolla Bill Johnson, Kam Jones
RT-Albert Reese, Steven Losoya

DE-Jordan Davis, Nathan Pickering
NT-Jaden Crumedy, Cameron Young
DE-Randy Charlton, De'Monte Russell
SLB-Tyrus Wheat, John Lewis
MLB-Jett Johnson, DeShawn Page
MLB-Nathaniel Watson, Nic Mitchell
CB-Emmanuel Forbes, Marcus Banks, Jordan Morant
CB-Decarlos Nicholson, Decamerion Richardson, Hunter Washington
NB-Shawn Preston, Corey Ellington
BS-Colin Duncan, Jackie Matthews
FS-Jalen Green, Dylan Lawrence

K-Massimo Biscardi, Ben Raybon
P-George Georgopoulous, Archer Trafford

[Hot Rock]

QB-Will Rogers, Sawyer Robinson
RB-Dillion Johnson, Jo'quavious Marks
WR-Jaden Walley, Austin Williams
WR-Tulu Griffin, Justin Robinson,Antonio Harmon
WR-Caleb Ducking, Rara Thomas
WR-Jamire Calvin, Jamorris Hopson
LT-Percy Lewis, Grant Jackson
LG-Nick Jones, Cole Smith
C-LaQuinston Sharp, Canon Boone
RG-Dolla Bill Johnson, Kam Jones
RT-Albert Reese, Steven Losoya

DE-Jordan Davis, Nathan Pickering
NT-Jaden Crumedy, Cameron Young
DE-Randy Charlton, De'Monte Russell
SLB-Tyrus Wheat, John Lewis
MLB-Jett Johnson, DeShawn Page
MLB-Nathaniel Watson, Nic Mitchell
CB-Emmanuel Forbes, Marcus Banks, Jordan Morant
CB-Decarlos Nicholson, Decamerion Richardson, Hunter Washington
NB-Shawn Preston, Corey Ellington
BS-Colin Duncan, Jackie Matthews
FS-Jalen Green, Dylan Lawrence

K-Massimo Biscardi, Ben Raybon
P-George Georgopoulous, Archer Trafford

That looks like a solid effort to what we will actually may see come game one. These just your thoughts or do you have some inside intel I don't? What I see of your list:

OLine - This looks like the best case for these guys with Reese and Lewis stepping up into starting rolls. I don't see Losoya at the RT backup. I expect he will help backup the inside spots and the starting Guards will be your back up OT's.

WR's - a good a guess as any I have seen. I see 8-10 guys that all look good with differing qualities

DL - All six you have listed will get lots of snaps and a couple other guys will get in there as well. It's a long season and this group looks deep and built to handle it. Does it have enough star power? I don't know but they do look good.

DB's - Your starters may be right but there is a bunch of new and young talent vying for all those spots. This should be the most improved group on the team outside special teams.

[msudawg1200]

That looks like a solid effort to what we will actually may see come game one. These just your thoughts or do you have some inside intel I don't? What I see of your list:

OLine - This looks like the best case for these guys with Reese and Lewis stepping up into starting rolls. I don't see Losoya at the RT backup. I expect he will help backup the inside spots and the starting Guards will be your back up OT's.

WR's - a good a guess as any I have seen. I see 8-10 guys that all look good with differing qualities

DL - All six you have listed will get lots of snaps and a couple other guys will get in there as well. It's a long season and this group looks deep and built to handle it. Does it have enough star power? I don't know but they do look good.

DB's - Your starters may be right but there is a bunch of new and young talent vying for all those spots. This should be the most improved group on the team outside special teams.

A little of both on your question.

[R2Dawg]

QB-Will Rogers, Sawyer Robinson
RB-Dillion Johnson, Jo'quavious Marks
WR-Jaden Walley, Austin Williams
WR-Tulu Griffin, Justin Robinson,Antonio Harmon
WR-Caleb Ducking, Rara Thomas
WR-Jamire Calvin, Jamorris Hopson
LT-Percy Lewis, Grant Jackson
LG-Nick Jones, Cole Smith
C-LaQuinston Sharp, Canon Boone
RG-Dolla Bill Johnson, Kam Jones
RT-Albert Reese, Steven Losoya

DE-Jordan Davis, Nathan Pickering
NT-Jaden Crumedy, Cameron Young
DE-Randy Charlton, De'Monte Russell
SLB-Tyrus Wheat, John Lewis
MLB-Jett Johnson, DeShawn Page
MLB-Nathaniel Watson, Nic Mitchell
CB-Emmanuel Forbes, Marcus Banks, Jordan Morant
CB-Decarlos Nicholson, Decamerion Richardson, Hunter Washington
NB-Shawn Preston, Corey Ellington
BS-Colin Duncan, Jackie Matthews
FS-Jalen Green, Dylan Lawrence

K-Massimo Biscardi, Ben Raybon
P-George Georgopoulous, Archer Trafford

That is a pretty talented group. That D could be really really good. We are real stout up front again thru 2 deep. A few unproven guys on OL on O but other than that lot of talent and returning experience. If we don't win 8-9 games 2022 is a failure IMO. No excuse.

[Catfish]

Solid team against a brutal schedule. I still say 8-4 or better.

[HoopsDawg]

There's nothing to play for.