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    Quote Originally Posted by WPS View Post
    I mean the way Ole Miss hit literally every member of the Arkansas bullpen I doubt it would have mattered unless the starter threw a complete game.

    Probably a good thing the #2 starter got saved for tonight, hope for a win tonight then to win two shootouts. Odds are slim but Arkansas can win against Diamond if it comes to it, then it's probably a Noland vs. DeLuca battle on Thursday.
    It was a bad move, Van Horn starting a guy who hadn't started all year was just dumb to be "experimenting" in the CWS. If anything, start your third guy, it destroyed the "team morale".
    It gave Ole Dixie all the confidence in the world and now the advantage with rested bullpen and now the Hogs will have to out slug everyone if they can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by basedog View Post
    It was a bad move, Van Horn starting a guy who hadn't started all year was just dumb to be "experimenting" in the CWS. If anything, start your third guy, it destroyed the "team morale".
    It gave Ole Dixie all the confidence in the world and now the advantage with rested bullpen and now the Hogs will have to out slug everyone if they can.
    You nailed it right there. I learned in my coaching years when you get to big time games or tournaments, its best to keep things as normal as possible. It provides a since of calm and confidence to your team. You're treating it like it's just the next game on the schedule. When you start monkeying around with stuff teams to play tight and nervous.

    ETA and especially with pitchers. They are such creatures of habit and when you disrupt that it generally doesn't end well. Van Horn approached that game like it was a do or die situation and he didn't have any pitching left but the pen guys. Was just plain stupid. I've got some really good arky friends and they're are extremely unhappy with van horn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by basedog View Post
    It was a bad move, Van Horn starting a guy who hadn't started all year was just dumb to be "experimenting" in the CWS. If anything, start your third guy, it destroyed the "team morale".
    It gave Ole Dixie all the confidence in the world and now the advantage with rested bullpen and now the Hogs will have to out slug everyone if they can.
    Morris had started the last game of the Stillwater Regional and was great, sent Arkansas to the Supers. Plus Ole Miss came into the game hitting significantly worse against lefties statistically.

    It didn't work out but I get why he did it. I just don't think there was any stopping their offense regardless last night.

    Arkansas changed pitchers so much last night that not many were really burned anyway. Used back of the bullpen guys in the later innings. We don't exactly have an established 3rd starter anymore since Hagen Smith has been closing games recently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WPS View Post
    Morris had started the last game of the Stillwater Regional and was great, sent Arkansas to the Supers. Plus Ole Miss came into the game hitting significantly worse against lefties statistically.

    It didn't work out but I get why he did it. I just don't think there was any stopping their offense regardless last night.

    Arkansas changed pitchers so much last night that not many were really burned anyway. Used back of the bullpen guys in the later innings. We don't exactly have an established 3rd starter anymore since Hagen Smith has been closing games recently.
    It's stupid to go with a hunch off one game. Van Horn over thought it big time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooterpoot View Post
    It's stupid to go with a hunch off one game. Van Horn over thought it big time.
    No question. If you have a reliable #2(which he does), he's #2 for a reason and you stick with it. He messed up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WPS View Post
    Morris had started the last game of the Stillwater Regional and was great, sent Arkansas to the Supers. Plus Ole Miss came into the game hitting significantly worse against lefties statistically.

    It didn't work out but I get why he did it. I just don't think there was any stopping their offense regardless last night.

    Arkansas changed pitchers so much last night that not many were really burned anyway. Used back of the bullpen guys in the later innings. We don't exactly have an established 3rd starter anymore since Hagen Smith has been closing games recently.
    It's ok to defend your coach and team, but Van Horn cost his team last night.

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    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to basedog again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WPS View Post
    Morris had started the last game of the Stillwater Regional and was great, sent Arkansas to the Supers. Plus Ole Miss came into the game hitting significantly worse against lefties statistically.

    It didn't work out but I get why he did it. I just don't think there was any stopping their offense regardless last night.

    Arkansas changed pitchers so much last night that not many were really burned anyway. Used back of the bullpen guys in the later innings. We don't exactly have an established 3rd starter anymore since Hagen Smith has been closing games recently.
    MSU fans are Arkansas fans right now, we are going to treat Van Horn like we would an MSU coach.

    Lose to OM, we are going to want him fired.

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