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    Want to play with the Big Boys in the NIL game?


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    Huge fan base in a big state, 13M is no problem
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    You know I was thinking about this the other day and teams can pay 5 mil, 10 mil, 50 mil it does not matter. If you cannot recruit at one position you can spend 100 million and still lose. If you cannot recruit and develop a QB then nothing else matters. I mean look at LSU. We know they have been paying players for half a century but it took a stroke of luck with Joe Burrow to unlock their offense. And you can do that with any team. Find me a team after Bama in 15-16 that won with an average QB. You can pay all you want, but if you cannot evaluate and develop the position then you will not break through. This is why we actually set up well if the playoff expands because we have one of the best QB evaluators at the college level. Not saying we will be national contenders, but we are better positioned than some might believe.

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    I agree, but this to me is one more death nail in MSU Football. Let?s put all our eggs in the basketball/baseball basket and let it ride.


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    We're done in football. That should be obvious now. A&M just spent $30MM to land a ridiculous recruiting class. They will do it again next year. As will others.

    Football in 2022 and beyond is now changed
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    We're donr in football. That should be obvious now. A&M just spent $30MM to land a ridiculous recruiting class. They will do it again next year. As will others.

    Football in 2022 and beyond is now changed
    A&M spent 30 million to go 8-4. They still do not have a QB. And they have zero in the pipeline. Haynes King, Max Johnson, nor Connor Weggman will strike fear into anyone at the P5 level.

    Jimbo has never and IMO will never be able to develop that position.
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    My College Jock Rash's discomfort just intensified and is spreading. My prior mistresses, NFL, MLB & NBA are hanging out here at the bar looking better by the minute as closing time nears egged on further by each pain relieving sip.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve View Post
    A&M spent 30 million to go 8-4..
    No- they spent $30MM on their future to ensure 10 wins per. Another $30MM for this December's signing class will elevate them into the top 8 of college football that wins 10-plus every year

    That $30MM is just getting to campus. It's the future. As will each class moving forward.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    No- they spent $30MM on their future to ensure 10 wins per. Another $30MM for this December's signing class will elevate them into the top 8 of college football that wins 10-plus every year

    That $30MM is just getting to campus. It's the future. As will each class moving forward.
    Again, find me a QB Jimbo has been able to develop and I will agree with you. He was gifted Mond and Jameis was so athletic and physically gifted even he could not screw him up

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve View Post
    Again, find me a QB Jimbo has been able to develop and I will agree with you. He was gifted Mond and Jameis was so athletic and physically gifted even he could not screw him up
    Maybe he'll buy one.

    You don't have to have elite qbs to win big time if you start stacking top 3 classes. Bama used to routinely win with subpar qb play, and Georgia just won one with freaking bennett. The question is if aTm can stack 3-4 elite classes in a row. 1 here and there won't get you in elite status, but 3-4 in a row will
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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Maybe he'll buy one.

    You don't have to have elite qbs to win big time if you start stacking top 3 classes. Bama used to routinely win with subpar qb play, and Georgia just won one with freaking bennett. The question is if aTm can stack 3-4 elite classes in a row. 1 here and there won't get you in elite status, but 3-4 in a row will
    ?Used to?. I will agree Bennett is a subpar QB but UGA had the best defense we have seen since Bama in either 2012 or 13. Those classes come around once a decade and those guys were grinders that were also Uber talented. Jimbo is not recruiting grinders. He is recruiting guys who want the bag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve View Post
    Again, find me a QB Jimbo has been able to develop and I will agree with you. He was gifted Mond and Jameis was so athletic and physically gifted even he could not screw him up
    Alabama has won multiple national championships with an 'eh quarterback. A&M can do the same if other positions are good enough without relying on Jimbo to develop a great quarterback.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    We're done in football. That should be obvious now. A&M just spent $30MM to land a ridiculous recruiting class. They will do it again next year. As will others.

    Football in 2022 and beyond is now changed
    This. It?s really college football in name only. It?s a minor league and it?s going to be NFL?esque before they incorporated parity rules (which they did to keep it from dying). Same thing will happen with ?college? football. They need to just create a minor league for 18-22 year old and make college football back amateur with student requirements and no scholarships.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IMissJack View Post
    Alabama has won multiple national championships with an 'eh quarterback. A&M can do the same if other positions are good enough without relying on Jimbo to develop a great quarterback.
    Again read my previous statement, prior to 2015. A&M cannot do good enough. They could've in 2011 but not in today's game. Y'all can all believe that Jimbo is going to own everyone. You will also all be wrong at the end of the day. In the modern era of college football only one position matters, QB. Unless you have an otherworldly defense like UGA did last year and even then it took Bill O'Brien and Bama's two best WR being out to win.

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    Just to add gasoline to the flames of NIL, think about Las Vegas. The casinos have spent a lot into the new stadium. Casinos get the premium seats for their clientele. When they run out of available seats at Raider games, they need to accommodate clientele with another product and that will be UNLV football.

    The casinos will NIL UNLV to an elite level to assure quality football availability to the big spenders at the CASINOS stadium? When casinos decide to pull the trigger on their determined NIL, UNLV will have a bigger war chest than Alabama?

    The NCAA will be compromised because of their new betting relationships with casinos. Fasten your seat belts.

    https://insidersport.com/2022/04/29/...d-conferences/

    https://sportshandle.com/ncaa-adjust...a-sale-policy/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    No- they spent $30MM on their future to ensure 10 wins per. Another $30MM for this December's signing class will elevate them into the top 8 of college football that wins 10-plus every year

    That $30MM is just getting to campus. It's the future. As will each class moving forward.
    Ummm...no

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    Quote Originally Posted by IMissJack View Post
    Alabama has won multiple national championships with an 'eh quarterback. A&M can do the same if other positions are good enough without relying on Jimbo to develop a great quarterback.
    You just compared Saban to Jimbo. Hahaha you been hanging out with 7 I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    We're done in football. That should be obvious now. A&M just spent $30MM to land a ridiculous recruiting class. They will do it again next year. As will others.

    Football in 2022 and beyond is now changed
    Yep, the game has totally changed and we are have been handed our hat and coat.

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    The NIL is making a broken system worse. There are only a handful of teams that can compete for a natty each year. Why even watch? With basketball and baseball, you don't know who will win each year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    No- they spent $30MM on their future to ensure 10 wins per. Another $30MM for this December's signing class will elevate them into the top 8 of college football that wins 10-plus every year

    That $30MM is just getting to campus. It's the future. As will each class moving forward.
    Half of those kids will transfer. If people who donated knew where the money was doing theyd stop. Im sorry I love MSU as much as anyone ever has and ever will but I am not giving my money that I work for, which nobody but God and my own father helped me to get to get some kids to come to school here. When they have 0 accountability and can up and leave with no punishment whenever they want. I hate to get political but we can all blame the left, social media and ourselves for giving in. They were already getting paid stipends and supplements every month on top of a free education and living every kids dream. We have allowed people who have 0 interest and 0 experience to ruin one of the greatest sports that ever existed.

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