Jack Walker to the portal

[MetEdDawg]

Meche also gone as well.

Maybe someone knows more than I do but Walker leaving was unexpected to me. Doesn't make a lot of sense honestly

[The Federalist Engineer]

Walker leaving is a statement on Foxhall- This was a big recruit. Louisiana Player of the Year

[Cooterpoot]

Another guy that learned how to not throw strikes here.
Foxhall will be gone after next season if pitching doesn't improve significantly.

[Leeshouldveflanked]

Another guy that learned how to not throw strikes here.
Foxhall will be gone after next season if pitching doesn't improve significantly.

Walker averaged 1 walk per game in High School. At MSU he averaged 1 walk per inning. How do you get that bad that quick?

[Cooterpoot]

Walker averaged 1 walk per game in High School. At MSU he averaged 1 walk per inning. How do you get that bad that quick?

Got Foxhalled

[Percho]

Walker averaged 1 walk per game in High School. At MSU he averaged 1 walk per inning. How do you get that bad that quick?

Because in HS you could get by throwing strikes. In college we are scared to throw strikes.

About all other teams had to do to get ahead of MSU hitters this past year was throw an off speed ball for a strike, we would take it and be down 0 and 1. Then we would swing at something out of the strike zone, 0-2.

[HoopsDawg]

complete re-tooling guys. several of us stated this was going to happen.

[Cooterpoot]

5 or 6 FR out the door. That's poor evals and coaching. That class is pretty much a miss minus a couple guys now.

[Cowbell]

5 or 6 FR out the door. That's poor evals and coaching. That class is pretty much a miss minus a couple guys now.

Yeah but who is that actually on? Who actually started recruiting last year's class? That class started getting recruited in the eighth grade. I think you gotta share the blame across the last couple of coaching staffs.


The other thing that we need to think about is this is the changing of the guard in terms of how you play ball. With the portal, you can no longer develop players - you don't have time to at a program like ours. So many of these kids when they were being recruited, we had no idea of the portal and the impact it would make. We are essentially changing how we play the game and I'm glad that we are. Every scholarship we use has to be on a guy that can likely start. Otherwise it's most likely a waste.

[Cooterpoot]

Yeah but who is that actually on? Who actually started recruiting last year's class? That class started getting recruited in the eighth grade. I think you gotta share the blame across the last couple of coaching staffs.


The other thing that we need to think about is this is the changing of the guard in terms of how you play ball. With the portal, you can no longer develop players - you don't have time to at a program like ours. So many of these kids when they were being recruited, we had no idea of the portal and the impact it would make. We are essentially changing how we play the game and I'm glad that we are. Every scholarship we use has to be on a guy that can likely start. Otherwise it's most likely a waste.

Our coaches were in no way obligated to sign any kid the other staff offered. Also, they all didn't commit to a previous staff. Walker committed to us late. This idea that all recruiting in a class is over 4 prior to them graduating is silly talk. Offers aren't binding. We aren't having trouble dropping recruits this year. And anyone that believes you don't still have to develop talent is a fool too.

[MetEdDawg]

complete re-tooling guys. several of us stated this was going to happen.

Sure we expected it. But it's not like Walker didn't come to us with talent. He was one of the more decorated high school pitchers we've brought in over the last decade. And we gave him opportunities to compete.

I don't get us wanting him to go or him wanting to leave after one year.

[Homedawg]

Sure we expected it. But it's not like Walker didn't come to us with talent. He was one of the more decorated high school pitchers we've brought in over the last decade. And we gave him opportunities to compete.

I don't get us wanting him to go or him wanting to leave after one year.

He was a decorated high school pitcher. He wasn't an elite recruit.

[Cooterpoot]

He was a decorated high school pitcher. He wasn't an elite recruit.

He was national HS pitcher of the year and an All American. Had multiple P5 and SEC offers.

[The Federalist Engineer]

He was national HS pitcher of the year and an All American. Had multiple P5 and SEC offers.

Not good enough....

"At Barbe (La.) High School, Walker was king. He led his squad to an incredible 39-2 record, a state championship and MaxPreps National Championship. He was a First-Team All-American by Collegiate Baseball, the MaxPreps and Perfect Game Player of the Year nationally, the state of Louisiana Mr. Baseball and Gatorade Player of the Year in his state."

Clearly, this is not the type of player MSU needs. All he had was an LSU offer. Even I could get LSU offer. I was too proud to take it.***

[Homedawg]

He was national HS pitcher of the year and an All American. Had multiple P5 and SEC offers.

Again. Great hs numbers. He wasn't an elite recruit. To say otherwise is just false.

[Hambone]

Am I thinking of the correct player, but wasn’t the scouting report on Walker was that he wasn’t a high velocity pitcher but had serious movement on his pitches?

If so, could it be possible he was dominant in high school due to facing inferior talent and once he got to college he was facing skilled hitters?

If I’m wrong about that player I apologize, I was just wondering if this could be the reason?

[Hot Rock]

Am I thinking of the correct player, but wasn?t the scouting report on Walker was that he wasn?t a high velocity pitcher but had serious movement on his pitches?

If so, could it be possible he was dominant in high school due to facing inferior talent and once he got to college he was facing skilled hitters?

If I?m wrong about that player I apologize, I was just wondering if this could be the reason?

Wow! Just Wow!

I am a believer in Foxhall because he is the only pitching coach to ever get us a national championship. How quickly everyone wants to hate on the coaches.

[Hambone]

Wow! Just Wow!

I am a believer in Foxhall because he is the only pitching coach to ever get us a national championship. How quickly everyone wants to hate on the coaches.

I’m on team Foxhall. I was just asking COULD that have been what happened. I sincerely apologize if my post inferred I was anti coaching staff. I totally agree with you, they are the only ones to ever do it.

[MaroonFlounder]

If so, could it be possible he was dominant in high school due to facing inferior talent and once he got to college he was facing skilled hitters?

Yes. Not getting the swing and miss he was getting in H.S.

Plus...all of our pitchers this year seemed to NOT get the calls on the corners of the zone. And that nibbling shit trying to get the corners will bite you....and you give up walks.

[Cooterpoot]

Yes. Not getting the swing and miss he was getting in H.S.

Plus...all of our pitchers this year seemed to NOT get the calls on the corners of the zone. And that nibbling shit trying to get the corners will bite you....and you give up walks.

He K'd 13 in 14 innings.