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    https://www.mlb.com/news/mlb-draft-2...ls-pick-values

    Reference for where I'm getting my information about draft slots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Federalist Engineer View Post
    I would expect a huge NIL payment or recruitment difference to go extract a Jacob Berry from Arizona - a ready to go All American and 1st Round pick. It will be news to me that there is even a market for this in baseball. Berry went LSU with his coach.

    I expect we won't get any Jacob Berry transfer or puck away a Mike Mussina from Stanford.

    I expect MSU to take Ok-ish guys from Austin Peay, Eastern Tennessee, Mercer, South Alabama, Campbell, West Virginia, Pittsburgh, Binghamton, or New Mexico. That's not going to take Saudi or Drug Cartel levels of money.

    Are you Cats saying MSU is about go buy a baseball team? Or some marquee All Americans from other D1 programs?
    I'm sure we'll try to get some players from the PAC 12 and other P5 schools that aren't in the Big 10. We'll see how many we land.

    I expect us to be very aggressive in the portal. We'll see how it shakes out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    Yeah- people need to realize about NIL. We've had trouble raising 3MM. The rest of the SEC is starting at 20MM
    Yep. And that's an issue in baseball too.
    Going to have to be smart about how we spend money. Which has always been the case honestly. We've always had less money than everybody else in the league

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooterpoot View Post
    We've got a damn mess.
    This is all that really matters. It's a mess, and it's Lemonis's doing. He gets a pass this year, because he brought home the trophy last year. I'm not even mad about this year really. We won it all last year; hard to be mad. But, if he doesn't get this turned around, next year looks like this year, recruiting doesn't pick up, and next offseason starts out like this offseason...all bets are off in my book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    I'm sure we'll try to get some players from the PAC 12 and other P5 schools that aren't in the Big 10. We'll see how many we land.

    I expect us to be very aggressive in the portal. We'll see how it shakes out.
    More portal porn:

    Georgia Tech got a Portal 2B from UAB this year. At UAB, the kid hit 220 the previous season. For GT, he hit 420 and a 500 OBP. The ultimate Lead Off man.

    GT also transferred in a MIF from Louisville. At Louisville, did not even play much. At GT he hits 318 and 18 HR and 54 RBI. Basically matching Berry and Dylan Crews at LSU.

    GT even transferred in a kid from a girls school in Memphis (Rhodes) and he became a 55 inning man and occasional conference starter.

    So, GT got 4 players and 3 contributed and 2 contributed like All Americans. None would have costed any money, just good scouting and roster management.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Federalist Engineer View Post
    More portal porn:

    Georgia Tech got a Portal 2B from UAB this year. At UAB, the kid hit 220 the previous season. For GT, he hit 420 and a 500 OBP. The ultimate Lead Off man.

    GT also transferred in a MIF from Louisville. At Louisville, did not even play much. At GT he hits 318 and 18 HR and 54 RBI. Basically matching Berry and Dylan Crews at LSU.

    GT even transferred in a kid from a girls school in Memphis (Rhodes) and he became a 55 inning man and occasional conference starter.

    So, GT got 4 players and 3 contributed and 2 contributed like All Americans. None would have costed any money, just good scouting and roster management.
    I think our ultimate failure last offseason, and it has been said a few times, is that we got comfortable in what we had instead of trying to get better. We became too loyal. In this day and age loyalty is going to have to take a backseat. If the guy is a difference maker then you bring him in, no matter who you piss off. THE TEAM THE TEAM THE TEAM

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve View Post
    I think our ultimate failure last offseason, and it has been said a few times, is that we got comfortable in what we had instead of trying to get better. We became too loyal. In this day and age loyalty is going to have to take a backseat. If the guy is a difference maker then you bring him in, no matter who you piss off. THE TEAM THE TEAM THE TEAM
    I think we had some key injuries where we couldn't afford it along with maybe resting on our laurels. We didn't have the Mangum, TA, or Rowdey to kick people in the ass and get it going. Once we were forced to use Preston Johnson and Brandon Smith as starters, our main inning eaters out of the bullpen were gone. It would have probably taken 3 or 4 guys to absorb those innings and no one stepped up. I am actually disappointed that Jack Walker didn't pitch better. I had high hopes that he could lock down the mid week starter or at least long relief on the weekends.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tbonewannabe View Post
    I think we had some key injuries where we couldn't afford it along with maybe resting on our laurels. We didn't have the Mangum, TA, or Rowdey to kick people in the ass and get it going. Once we were forced to use Preston Johnson and Brandon Smith as starters, our main inning eaters out of the bullpen were gone. It would have probably taken 3 or 4 guys to absorb those innings and no one stepped up. I am actually disappointed that Jack Walker didn't pitch better. I had high hopes that he could lock down the mid week starter or at least long relief on the weekends.
    Add another factor to what you and SVS said - unless you were a starter or top reliever in 2020 or 2021, you've had no opportunity to develop. COVID killed the '20 season and summer ball; the expanded rosters in '21 cut innings; and the CWS cut '21 summer ball time. So we have 3rd year players who have barely seen the field that normally would have been playing a good bit in mid-week and had 2 years of summer ball. When added to A & B, that's not a solid recipe for a pitching staff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg View Post
    Add another factor to what you and SVS said - unless you were a starter or top reliever in 2020 or 2021, you've had no opportunity to develop. COVID killed the '20 season and summer ball; the expanded rosters in '21 cut innings; and the CWS cut '21 summer ball time. So we have 3rd year players who have barely seen the field that normally would have been playing a good bit in mid-week and had 2 years of summer ball. When added to A & B, that's not a solid recipe for a pitching staff.
    Another good point. Most guys have 2+ months to work stuff out and hone their skills in summer leagues and our guys had right at a month or a little less. Add that to COVID, injuries, and resting on our laurels and it really is not hard to see how we struggled on the mound.

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