I?ve never been so apathetic

[Dawgology]

Towards MSU sports.

I think this is the first time I?ve even looked at the message board or state athletics media in about a month (maybe more). I don’t think I’ve actively watched state sports since the egg bowl and I only halfway watched it. I hope the rest of the fanbase isn?t feeling half the way I am about it. Really hoping football season changes that.

First time in 30 years I?ve been like this. Trying to get reinvigorated but?.meh?

[BeardoMSU]

#spoilt

FFS...

[Hot Rock]

Let's see ---

1) won a national championship a year ago in baseball - have some nice pieces but team needs tweaking for sure to be competitive. Thing is, we still have the coaches in place that got that title, no reason think they can't do it again.

2) Have two new HC in Womens and Mens basketball and both seem to be doing well in shaping up a roster for next year and the mens' HC has taken teams to the dance and won games at places with way less resources.

3) Leach's system should be maturing with a seasoned QB with probably the best defense he has ever had. It's make or break year for him to show this can be done. Should be exciting whichever way it goes

4) Track, Golf, Tenniss, Volleyball, Softball are all doing better than I can remember. I am sure someone will point out where I am wrong but everytime I turn around I see one of those getting headlines.

This is more a you thing. It happens, I go through times where life is not about sports for me too but Mississippi State sports is not in a bad way. In fact, I think the future is bright.

[FISHDAWG]

Let's see ---

1) won a national championship a year ago in baseball - have some nice pieces but team needs tweaking for sure to be competitive. Thing is, we still have the coaches in place that got that title, no reason think they can't do it again.

2) Have two new HC in Womens and Mens basketball and both seem to be doing well in shaping up a roster for next year and the mens' HC has taken teams to the dance and won games at places with way less resources.

3) Leach's system should be maturing with a seasoned QB with probably the best defense he has ever had. It's make or break year for him to show this can be done. Should be exciting whichever way it goes

4) Track, Golf, Tenniss, Volleyball, Softball are all doing better than I can remember. I am sure someone will point out where I am wrong but everytime I turn around I see one of those getting headlines.

This is more a you thing. It happens, I go through times where life is not about sports for me too but Mississippi State sports is not in a bad way. In fact, I think the future is bright.

Since I can't rep this I will simply say GOOD POST

[ScoobaDawg]

Let's see ---

1) won a national championship a year ago in baseball - have some nice pieces but team needs tweaking for sure to be competitive. Thing is, we still have the coaches in place that got that title, no reason think they can't do it again.

2) Have two new HC in Womens and Mens basketball and both seem to be doing well in shaping up a roster for next year and the mens' HC has taken teams to the dance and won games at places with way less resources.

3) Leach's system should be maturing with a seasoned QB with probably the best defense he has ever had. It's make or break year for him to show this can be done. Should be exciting whichever way it goes

4) Track, Golf, Tenniss, Volleyball, Softball are all doing better than I can remember. I am sure someone will point out where I am wrong but everytime I turn around I see one of those getting headlines.

This is more a you thing. It happens, I go through times where life is not about sports for me too but Mississippi State sports is not in a bad way. In fact, I think the future is bright.

Truth.
I'm frustrated as hell with the baseball team but haven't forgotten or soured on what those coaches did last year.

Just going to make it a loooong summer likely with no baseball team playing in just a few weeks.

[Matt3467]

Let's see ---

1) won a national championship a year ago in baseball - have some nice pieces but team needs tweaking for sure to be competitive. Thing is, we still have the coaches in place that got that title, no reason think they can't do it again.

2) Have two new HC in Womens and Mens basketball and both seem to be doing well in shaping up a roster for next year and the mens' HC has taken teams to the dance and won games at places with way less resources.

3) Leach's system should be maturing with a seasoned QB with probably the best defense he has ever had. It's make or break year for him to show this can be done. Should be exciting whichever way it goes

4) Track, Golf, Tenniss, Volleyball, Softball are all doing better than I can remember. I am sure someone will point out where I am wrong but everytime I turn around I see one of those getting headlines.

This is more a you thing. It happens, I go through times where life is not about sports for me too but Mississippi State sports is not in a bad way. In fact, I think the future is bright.

1. a .500 season a year after winning the NC is cause enough to be apathetic towards the baseball team this year. Someone asked the question recently and I haven't been able to find the answer but has there ever been another team to have as bad a season after winning a NC? It's such an anomaly I wouldn't blame those wondering if Lemonis and co can do it again.

2. Men's basketball is the one sport at State where one would have great reason to be apathetic. We don't necessarily have a history of winning here and the last decade or so has been pretty hard to watch. It's interesting though that the reason given for optimism is the same one some of us were saying about Leach.

3. Football is about the only sport I'm looking forward to and it's because of Leach. I think he can win here but even if we don't have the year we want I love watching the pressers.

4. I don't keep up with those and I imagine most couldn't tell you what those sports have been doing. Not taking away from the point but most people don't follow MSU for track.

I think you have a point about life though. I definitely have lost some interest in sports as a whole over the last 5 or so years. I'm not as fanatic as I used to be and although I don't post as much as others but I've been checking ED for the "news" many times a day religiously for nearly a decade and I don't do that as much anymore either.

[Liverpooldawg]

Let's see ---

1) won a national championship a year ago in baseball - have some nice pieces but team needs tweaking for sure to be competitive. Thing is, we still have the coaches in place that got that title, no reason think they can't do it again.

2) Have two new HC in Womens and Mens basketball and both seem to be doing well in shaping up a roster for next year and the mens' HC has taken teams to the dance and won games at places with way less resources.

3) Leach's system should be maturing with a seasoned QB with probably the best defense he has ever had. It's make or break year for him to show this can be done. Should be exciting whichever way it goes

4) Track, Golf, Tenniss, Volleyball, Softball are all doing better than I can remember. I am sure someone will point out where I am wrong but everytime I turn around I see one of those getting headlines.

This is more a you thing. It happens, I go through times where life is not about sports for me too but Mississippi State sports is not in a bad way. In fact, I think the future is bright.

1)baseball gets a pass this year. It was going to be down anyway but the injuries to the pitching staff put it WAY down.
2) wait and see mode for me. Show me something and I'll get excited. I won't till it happens.
3) will struggle to have a winning season. I don't see us being much better than last year, if any, and the schedule is harder for sure.
4) I don't care one way or the other.

[sandjunky]

Injuries have nothing to do with the inability to throw strikes and compete on the mound

For example, if you go take a gander at Fristoe?s PG profile, you will see he walked as many batters as he K?d

Yes, electric stuff but wouldn?t that tell you it will be exasperated in the SEC where you don?t need a boat paddle to hit like with PG

We may work on command in bullpens but the stats bear out the staff as whole has poor command

[Duckdog]

Injuries have nothing to do with the inability to throw strikes and compete on the mound

For example, if you go take a gander at Fristoe?s PG profile, you will see he walked as many batters as he K?d

Yes, electric stuff but wouldn?t that tell you it will be exasperated in the SEC where you don?t need a boat paddle to hit like with PG

We may work on command in bullpens but the stats bear out the staff as whole has poor command

What a sorry bs post!!!!!!!! Honestly, what did you expect from Fristoe?????????

[Catfish]

Let's see ---

1) won a national championship a year ago in baseball - have some nice pieces but team needs tweaking for sure to be competitive. Thing is, we still have the coaches in place that got that title, no reason think they can't do it again.

2) Have two new HC in Womens and Mens basketball and both seem to be doing well in shaping up a roster for next year and the mens' HC has taken teams to the dance and won games at places with way less resources.

3) Leach's system should be maturing with a seasoned QB with probably the best defense he has ever had. It's make or break year for him to show this can be done. Should be exciting whichever way it goes

4) Track, Golf, Tenniss, Volleyball, Softball are all doing better than I can remember. I am sure someone will point out where I am wrong but everytime I turn around I see one of those getting headlines.

This is more a you thing. It happens, I go through times where life is not about sports for me too but Mississippi State sports is not in a bad way. In fact, I think the future is bright.

Dang good post.

[The Federalist Engineer]

Let's see ---

1) won a national championship a year ago in baseball - have some nice pieces but team needs tweaking for sure to be competitive. Thing is, we still have the coaches in place that got that title, no reason think they can't do it again.

2) Have two new HC in Womens and Mens basketball and both seem to be doing well in shaping up a roster for next year and the mens' HC has taken teams to the dance and won games at places with way less resources.

3) Leach's system should be maturing with a seasoned QB with probably the best defense he has ever had. It's make or break year for him to show this can be done. Should be exciting whichever way it goes

4) Track, Golf, Tenniss, Volleyball, Softball are all doing better than I can remember. I am sure someone will point out where I am wrong but everytime I turn around I see one of those getting headlines.

This is more a you thing. It happens, I go through times where life is not about sports for me too but Mississippi State sports is not in a bad way. In fact, I think the future is bright.

After saying this, you make the previous post look like the most Karen post ever. Repped

[Dawgology]

After saying this, you make the previous post look like the most Karen post ever. Repped

"Karen post"? haha. ok.

My apathy has 50% to do with the performance of the MSU athletic program and 50% to do with current trends in portal use and recruiting.

College sports used to be about a student of your favorite school who was competing on the field and representing your school because they were PART of your school. Committed. 100% part of the student body. Now I see mercenaries just like pro-sports. Going to the highest bidder. Good for them for making that money but I think it kills the spirit of what college sports was meant to be. Of course, that spirit has been dying for a while now. Now, I rarely learn the names of players because I know many will be moving on within a year or two.

This combined with the poor performance of basketball and baseball. Coupled with mediocre results in football and egg bowl losses. In addition to the weird Covid season and everything that went along with that just kind of got me out of it all. I'm sure it has a lot to do with getting into my 40's and watching family members die over the past couple of years and through that finding joy in other places and (not to sounds overly dramatic) discovering the importance a family time and memories outside of athletics. It's a confluence of all of that and many people that I used to go to games with feel the same way now. It's hard to get a big group together to go anymore. Even to get together and watch it at home is difficult now.

[Maroonthirteen]

Apathy is probably mostly to do with your age. At least it is for me....then the other 50% is NIL, schools involvement in politics, prices...combo of it all together.

The other 50%.... I've become aware with age and experience the hierarchy of college football. We pretty much know the outcome of the big games.

[Jarius]

"Karen post"? haha. ok.

My apathy has 50% to do with the performance of the MSU athletic program and 50% to do with current trends in portal use and recruiting.

College sports used to be about a student of your favorite school who was competing on the field and representing your school because they were PART of your school. Committed. 100% part of the student body. Now I see mercenaries just like pro-sports. Going to the highest bidder. Good for them for making that money but I think it kills the spirit of what college sports was meant to be. Of course, that spirit has been dying for a while now. Now, I rarely learn the names of players because I know many will be moving on within a year or two.

This combined with the poor performance of basketball and baseball. Coupled with mediocre results in football and egg bowl losses. In addition to the weird Covid season and everything that went along with that just kind of got me out of it all. I'm sure it has a lot to do with getting into my 40's and watching family members die over the past couple of years and through that finding joy in other places and (not to sounds overly dramatic) discovering the importance a family time and memories outside of athletics. It's a confluence of all of that and many people that I used to go to games with feel the same way now. It's hard to get a big group together to go anymore. Even to get together and watch it at home is difficult now.

I’m probably more excited than almost anyone about State football this year but the mercenary deal you are Talking about is spot on. I can remember growing up and memorizing the roster and idolizing the guys on our football team. Now you have no idea who is going to be there on a yearly basis. I do understand wanting to get more PT but it’s getting to the point where the superstars on smaller market teams are transferring to blue bloods and that shit is just no fun. College football used to have a loyalty draw to it where your team’s players loved your university and hated their rivals. Now they all hang out together and are friends and try to get the other ones to hit the portal and join them. It’s just gross. When I see Banks and Boobie and Fitz and guys like that get on Twitter and talk trash to ole miss it makes me smile. That’s what it’s all about. Not this bull shit where our players are ending up on the Ole Miss roster. That’s just insane to me that anyone that attends State and plays on scholarship would ever see that athletic program up the road as a destination that they would consider. That should be something we ingrain into our players day 1 when they arrive. We hate that school. There are no buddies over there. That has to come from our head coach. And yea I know everyone does it in 2022 but I don’t like the fact that will Rogers is throwing to Mingo and Heath in the off-season. Anything that makes them better is not good for us. Period. Tell them to go throw with their own damn quarterback.

[Saltydog]

You're like a lot of the fan base right now (lower than whale shit on the bottom of the ocean). Good thing you haven't been watching because the basketball and baseball teams sure as heck wouldn't have helped your morale. The baseball season is the kicker for me. I'm used to the inconsistency in the football and basketball programs but baseball is a special thing at MSU and while we've had the occasional bad season here and there this year is especially frustrating given last years run and the potential this team had.

[Coach34]

From 1976-2007 State did not have 1 losing baseball season.

Then we had 3 straight thanks to Polk's stopping recruiting off campus and crashing in 2008. 2008, 2009, 2010 as Cohen had to rebuild. Then we had 2015's hiccup
Now 2022.

31 straight winning seasons to now 5 losing seasons in the last 15. With only 5 seasons in the last 41 years- its understandable if people are down and concerned.

[Hot Rock]

From 1976-2007 State did not have 1 losing baseball season.

Then we had 3 straight thanks to Polk's stopping recruiting off campus and crashing in 2008. 2008, 2009, 2010 as Cohen had to rebuild. Then we had 2015's hiccup
Now 2022.

31 straight winning seasons to now 5 losing seasons in the last 15. With only 5 seasons in the last 41 years- its understandable if people are down and concerned.

Concern sure, but apathetic or not caring is more about each individual. Personal thoughts about where each team is headed is always an issue. The portal and NIL monies throw it in our face that we are a have not program but that was always the case. That's not new. I

I think basketball has made two good hires and both roster are starting to shape up a bit. That is exciting to me.

Then football is in one of those years that could unite the sunshine pumpers like me and the doom and gloomers to go one way or the other with Leach. He has to prove it can work now. Let's see which way it goes.

To me, it's exciting times even in baseball. Sure, they underperformed this year but there are some really nice young talented players on that team and Lemonis just won a title last year. It's always a challenge to win in the SEC but never more than now. Baseball was a an afterthought most places for a lot of those 31 straight winning seasons, which made it easier back then in my opinion. It's a long summer ahead, I intend to play a lot more golf. Maybe the fall will be better, I hope so.

[Leeshouldveflanked]

What sports are we finishing in top half of SEC for sports year fall21/Spring 22?

[99jc]

Guys i am telling you i have been following MSU sports since 1968 i am pretty good now in my premonitions on the teams before they start. I have a very good feeling about the football team and i think the men's and women's basketball teams will be greatly improved. Many underestimate the effect coaching has... see Alabama pre-Saban. the new basketball coaches will succeed here and i know Leach will have a great season this year and will continue to build on that. you gloom and doomers need to get some cannabis gummies and chill out.. HAIL 17ING STATE!

[Leeshouldveflanked]

From 1976-2007 State did not have 1 losing baseball season.

Then we had 3 straight thanks to Polk's stopping recruiting off campus and crashing in 2008. 2008, 2009, 2010 as Cohen had to rebuild. Then we had 2015's hiccup
Now 2022.

31 straight winning seasons to now 5 losing seasons in the last 15. With only 5 seasons in the last 41 years- its understandable if people are down and concerned.

We didn?t have real SEC TV money during that timeframe. No reason with that money now we shouldn?t be a top 25-30 program in all our sports and Top 10 Baseball annually.