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Originally Posted by
msstate7
It's unfortunate that one of our great players just isn't gonna make it. I love the guy, but he just isn't an mlb player
His ultimate future I believe is as a college baseball coach. And maybe could be ours one day in the future.
Whether he makes it to MLB or not.
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Originally Posted by
WhiskeyPirate
He?s going to make it as leading reciever in the sec. special,teams are a non factor. I?d put the odd of him making an nfl roster above 90%.
Ryan Davis 2017
Kalija lipscomb 2018
Both led the sec in receiving. Neither made an nfl roster. Lipscomb has made a PS.
Fred Ross was 2nd in sec in receptions and 4th in yards for us in 2015. He too was not drafted, and he never made the 53-man roster. He made the PS before being cut during his first season.
Your 90% number is a joke. 5th rounders don't make rosters at that rate
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Originally Posted by
Todd4State
How can you say he wouldn't have benefitted from coming back?
Already mentioned it a few times if you go back, but he doesn?t have above average size, speed, or route running. The first 2 are physical and won?t change, the route running is a product of our middle school offense we just don?t let receivers learn the full route tree here. He caught 100 balls and led the SEC in receiving this year and didnt get drafted. Not much left to prove or showcase. As I said earlier maybe he sneaks into round 6-7 if he came back, but NFL doesnt have interest in receivers who aren?t above average at at least one of the 3 traits.
He would have benefited coming back by getting a free degree
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Couple of things:
He needs to make a smart decision and pick a team he has the best chance to make the roster rather than the team that offers the most money.
Correct, he wasn?t going to get much ?better? with another year at MSU but he might have made some incremental improvement and put more tape out and with a potentially weaker wr class maybe he?s a 4-7 pick.
Hopefully he graduated and got his free degree as that and a potential free graduate degree would be worth something.
Simone brought up Fred Ross and I think Fred was a better wr than Polk and he couldn?t make it. I really thought Fred could carve out a role as a WR 4/5 for some teams.
Now Polk is a UDA that isn?t going to help on special teams probably. Odds are stacked against him but hope he makes it
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I don't worry about kids making decisions anymore. They've got to live with it, not me. It's like I tell my kids, don't make a decision you can't overcome. Otherwise, live your life your way. Good luck to him.
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Originally Posted by
Irondawg
Couple of things:
He needs to make a smart decision and pick a team he has the best chance to make the roster rather than the team that offers the most money.
Correct, he wasn?t going to get much ?better? with another year at MSU but he might have made some incremental improvement and put more tape out and with a potentially weaker wr class maybe he?s a 4-7 pick.
Hopefully he graduated and got his free degree as that and a potential free graduate degree would be worth something.
Simone brought up Fred Ross and I think Fred was a better wr than Polk and he couldn?t make it. I really thought Fred could carve out a role as a WR 4/5 for some teams.
Now Polk is a UDA that isn?t going to help on special teams probably. Odds are stacked against him but hope he makes it
Yeah I don?t know why he went to the ravens. They?re light on WR after trading brown but with that offense you probably carry 4 TE and only 5 WR
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Originally Posted by
Irondawg
Couple of things:
He needs to make a smart decision and pick a team he has the best chance to make the roster rather than the team that offers the most money.
Correct, he wasn?t going to get much ?better? with another year at MSU but he might have made some incremental improvement and put more tape out and with a potentially weaker wr class maybe he?s a 4-7 pick.
Hopefully he graduated and got his free degree as that and a potential free graduate degree would be worth something.
Simone brought up Fred Ross and I think Fred was a better wr than Polk and he couldn?t make it. I really thought Fred could carve out a role as a WR 4/5 for some teams.
Now Polk is a UDA that isn?t going to help on special teams probably. Odds are stacked against him but hope he makes it
Not to mention Bear Wilson never got drafted either.... Polk just guessed wrong and that's nothing against him ... I do it all the time
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
Ryan Davis 2017
Kalija lipscomb 2018
Both led the sec in receiving. Neither made an nfl roster. Lipscomb has made a PS.
Fred Ross was 2nd in sec in receptions and 4th in yards for us in 2015. He too was not drafted, and he never made the 53-man roster. He made the PS before being cut during his first season.
Your 90% number is a joke. 5th rounders don't make rosters at that rate
If all those guys, plus De'Runnya Wilson and probably Makai Polk, aren't good enough for the NFL, the NFL should have more teams.
The US population has grown by more than 15% since the NFL expanded to 32 teams in 2002. We need some expansion to contain the higher pool of talent.
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Originally Posted by
Quaoarsking
If all those guys, plus De'Runnya Wilson and probably Makai Polk, aren't good enough for the NFL, the NFL should have more teams.
The US population has grown by more than 15% since the NFL expanded to 32 teams in 2002. We need some expansion to contain the higher pool of talent.
I don't agree. I want a very select few to make it. The nfl product is outstanding, and I want it to stay that way.
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Originally Posted by
Quaoarsking
If all those guys, plus De'Runnya Wilson and probably Makai Polk, aren't good enough for the NFL, the NFL should have more teams.
The US population has grown by more than 15% since the NFL expanded to 32 teams in 2002. We need some expansion to contain the higher pool of talent.
That?s what the USFL is for. No need to water the NFL down
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Originally Posted by
DEDawg
That?s what the USFL is for. No need to water the NFL down
Was the NFL "watered down" in 2002?
If anything, the growth in NFL talent has probably been more than 15% due to even better conditioning, development, and talent identification since then.
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Originally Posted by
Quaoarsking
If all those guys, plus De'Runnya Wilson and probably Makai Polk, aren't good enough for the NFL, the NFL should have more teams.
The US population has grown by more than 15% since the NFL expanded to 32 teams in 2002. We need some expansion to contain the higher pool of talent.
They can get a real job. why provide a game in a watered down talent pool, as a means of employment.
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
Ryan Davis 2017
Kalija lipscomb 2018
Both led the sec in receiving. Neither made an nfl roster. Lipscomb has made a PS.
Fred Ross was 2nd in sec in receptions and 4th in yards for us in 2015. He too was not drafted, and he never made the 53-man roster. He made the PS before being cut during his first season.
Your 90% number is a joke. 5th rounders don't make rosters at that rate
What’s a joke is you comparing 5-9 Ryan Davis and his five touchdowns to Polk. You are just throwing crap out there to argue. How is Davis remotely comparable to Polk as a wide reciever ?
Ok loudmouth when Polk makes an nfl roster , I will be sure to remind you. Carry on arguing with yourself.
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Think about ole miss. They had six guys go undrafted
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Originally Posted by
WhiskeyPirate
What?s a joke is you comparing 5-9 Ryan Davis and his five touchdowns to Polk. You are just throwing crap out there to argue. How is Davis remotely comparable to Polk as a wide reciever ?
Ok loudmouth when Polk makes an nfl roster , I will be sure to remind you. Carry on arguing with yourself.
I can?t wait to bump this
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Originally Posted by
WhiskeyPirate
What’s a joke is you comparing 5-9 Ryan Davis and his five touchdowns to Polk. You are just throwing crap out there to argue. How is Davis remotely comparable to Polk as a wide reciever ?
Ok loudmouth when Polk makes an nfl roster , I will be sure to remind you. Carry on arguing with yourself.
Both led the sec in receptions.
Both were undrafted
Polk this year led the sec in receptions, but was 40th in yds/rec. He's just not a plus athlete
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One thing more concerning than Polk landing on a roster is the lack of MSU players being draftee. This is the 2nd year in row that we have had only 2 players drafted. Since 2010 we have had only 2 years, 14 and 17, we have had had less than 3 drafted. And next year who is even on the radar? Is it our player development, Scheme or just lack of talent? Even with the new NIL kids do look at this. I hope this is not a bad trend
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
It's highly unlikely he makes an nfl roster. Sure some UDFAs do, but I'd bet a big sum he's not on the raven's roster after 4th preseason game
There are no longer 4 preseason NFL games
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Originally Posted by
MaroonFlounder
There are no longer 4 preseason NFL games
Yep, thanks
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Originally Posted by
Quaoarsking
Undrafted players should be allowed to return to college if they want
Bingo. There is absolutely no reason to force a football player out of college if he doesn't get drafted. Basketball either. Baseball has it correct. Everyone is draft eligible, they have leverage to get a better contract if they have another year. Teams know which players are coming back or not. It is much easier.
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