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    Here is why we aren?t landing any bball transfers yet

    https://twitter.com/draftexpress/sta...881723392?s=21

    ?Miami Hurricanes guard Isaiah Wong will enter the transfer portal on Friday if his name, image and likeness (NIL) compensation isn't increased, his NIL agent, Adam Papas of NEXT Sports Agency, told ESPN on Thursday.?
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    Screw these guys! What a 17ing mess that's been created. 17 college athletics if it's getting to this. I won't waste my time on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooterpoot View Post
    Screw these guys! What a 17ing mess that's been created. 17 college athletics if it's getting to this. I won't waste my time on it.
    Yeah it's getting real hard to be interested in it anymore. What a mess they've created. There's no control in place for any of this. Kid just goes to the highest bidder and if he's not happy after that he just bids his services out again. Insanity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Commercecomet24 View Post
    Yeah it's getting real hard to be interested in it anymore. What a mess they've created. There's no control in place for any of this. Kid just goes to the highest bidder and if he's not happy after that he just bids his services out again. Insanity.
    Naw. Remember this was all for equity and equality and to help the little guy players?

    As with every other time this bullshit reasoning is used, a small few of the ?little guys? benefit. And the haves of the industry choke out the have nots even more.

    Rinse repeat and the ignorant public cannot figure out what went wrong as they stick a fork in the 240 volt socket.

    The problem with this entire ideology is not one of them ever asks “and then what?”. The unintended and obvious consequences aren’t very complicated. I could teach my dog this but somehow the public keeps falling for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RougeDawg View Post
    Naw. Remember this was all for equity and equality and to help the little guy players?

    As with every other time this bullshit reasoning is used, a small few of the ?little guys? benefit. And the haves of the industry choke out the have nots even more.

    Rinse repeat and the ignorant public cannot figure out what went wrong as they stick a fork in the 240 volt socket.

    The problem with this entire ideology is not one of them ever asks “and then what?”. The unintended and obvious consequences aren’t very complicated. I could teach my dog this but somehow the public keeps falling for it.

    PM me if you are interested in any bridge purchases. Cheap cheap.
    Ha, true statement. Just like we need a $15/hr min wage. So many thought that would fix everything. All it does is make your fast food hamburger cost $15 now. You don't gain anything. It does eliminate the middle class which is what the goal of socialism/communism does. Why are people so stupid? Because we let the gov (Biden just said they are our children) not teach them anything useful in school but social agendas. Unfortunately, we will all pay the price of a dumb culture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Commercecomet24 View Post
    Yeah it's getting real hard to be interested in it anymore. What a mess they've created. There's no control in place for any of this. Kid just goes to the highest bidder and if he's not happy after that he just bids his services out again. Insanity.
    And, of course, quality of education, what they major in, etc., is not even considered (presumably).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooterpoot View Post
    Screw these guys! What a 17ing mess that's been created. 17 college athletics if it's getting to this. I won't waste my time on it.
    Agree wholeheartedly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    https://twitter.com/draftexpress/sta...881723392?s=21

    ?Miami Hurricanes guard Isaiah Wong will enter the transfer portal on Friday if his name, image and likeness (NIL) compensation isn't increased, his NIL agent, Adam Papas of NEXT Sports Agency, told ESPN on Thursday.?
    The cesspool that is college basketball is just getting deeper.

    The point of NIL was to be able to make money off of your own rep and ability. Kids should be able to get $20 for an autograph, or branded t-shirts or endorse products. But none of that should be a guarantee and none of it should be tied to a school or the ability of the school to organize a bunch of boosters just to give cash to kids.
    "After dealing with Ole Miss for over a year," he said, "I've learned to expect their leadership to do and say things that the leadership at other Division I schools would never consider doing and to justify their actions by reminding themselves that "We're Ole Miss.""
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg View Post
    The cesspool that is college basketball is just getting deeper.

    The point of NIL was to be able to make money off of your own rep and ability. Kids should be able to get $20 for an autograph, or branded t-shirts or endorse products. But none of that should be a guarantee and none of it should be tied to a school or the ability of the school to organize a bunch of boosters just to give cash to kids.
    Intent doesn't matter when you open pandora's box. There is no governing body; its anything goes now. College sports is about to be over. And if you don't think this won't leak into high school then just wait and see.

    We are setting our society up for catastrophic failure.

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    Free market for me not for thee I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YazooDawg23 View Post
    Free market for me not for thee I guess.
    The thing about a free market is that it will correct itself. And it will and when it does it will be a rude awakening for some of these kids

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cowbell View Post
    The thing about a free market is that it will correct itself. And it will and when it does it will be a rude awakening for some of these kids
    Exactly! College athletics got too big. We're seeing it correct itself with fewer asses in the seats and less give a damn. I've been involved in the recruiting side and I hate this. The kids deserve to be paid, but it can't be out of control.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooterpoot View Post
    Exactly! College athletics got too big. We're seeing it correct itself with fewer asses in the seats and less give a damn. I've been involved in the recruiting side and I hate this. The kids deserve to be paid, but it can't be out of control.
    This. I'm all for the free market, but there has to be some sort of oversight, guidelines, something to keep it under control. It's just the wild west right now. There's a bubble being created and as past history shows, financial bubbles at some point burst.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cowbell View Post
    The thing about a free market is that it will correct itself. And it will and when it does it will be a rude awakening for some of these kids
    I repeat what I've stated before, most people have no clue how much money these guys get PRE NIL. Free room and board. Pell grant. Stipend. Academic money. Now this. Most will never ever live this well in their lives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Homedawg View Post
    I repeat what I've stated before, most people have no clue how much money these guys get PRE NIL. Free room and board. Pell grant. Stipend. Academic money. Now this. Most will never ever live this well in their lives.
    Amen!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Homedawg View Post
    I repeat what I've stated before, most people have no clue how much money these guys get PRE NIL. Free room and board. Pell grant. Stipend. Academic money. Now this. Most will never ever live this well in their lives.
    Guys in the media like Jay Bilas wouldn't shut up about it. The Presidents and the NCAA buried their heads in the sand and hoped to win in the courts. Now Pandora's box is open and we have chaos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoopsDawg View Post
    Guys in the media like Jay Bilas wouldn't shut up about it. The Presidents and the NCAA buried their heads in the sand and hoped to win in the courts. Now Pandora's box is open and we have chaos.
    But what seems to be lost on you is that those big money places were already giving them big time $$$. What's different is once a guy signed, his leverage was gone.

    If we an limit this transfer portal with some decent guidelines, I think the NIL money thing will work itself out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Homedawg View Post
    I repeat what I've stated before, most people have no clue how much money these guys get PRE NIL. Free room and board. Pell grant. Stipend. Academic money. Now this. Most will never ever live this well in their lives.
    That is true, but once coaches started getting multi-million buyouts and the universities started making millions of dollars selling Tebow jerseys to every Floridian that could afford to buy one, all the student athlete didn't get a cut, at some point they did this to themselves.

    If they had been smart, they would have turned the faucet on years ago and started sharing revenue with the college athlete. That would have avoided all of this. Instead they handed out multi-million dollar contracts to every coach they could find, and then fire them within 3 years.

    When Matt Luke and JoMo can have generational wealth after coaching for basically two seasons, that is not the fault of the athlete.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog View Post
    That is

    When Matt Luke and JoMo can have generational wealth after coaching for basically two seasons, that is not the fault of the athlete.
    I think they should pay regular students a salary because the professor gets a salary. So does Keenum....***
    The tug driver at FedEx should make $500,000 a year because Fred Smith is a millionaire.***

    This goes back to my point yesterday. Nobody wants to earn anything. Just give me, give me, give me.

    Matt and Joe went to college, passed classes, went to practice, played games and proved themselves. Then left college and got more education. Took entry level jobs. Worked themselves up the ladder and earned every penny they got. People talk about the market. Well those two guys earned what they market paid them.

    Also, the value is in the schools, the logos and the SEC brand. That's what TV pays for the rights to televise. These kids coming up haven't contributed any thing to the schools brand or conference brand, yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YazooDawg23 View Post
    Free market for me not for thee I guess.
    Problem is, it's not a free market. You 'have' to go to college or sit out years after high school before going pro. A true free market would be no draft, players sign with whoever, whenever they want. If that was the case semi-pro ball in all leagues would have probably replaced the College market because quality players would probably go there and earn money.

    edit: baseball aside which is the closest to a free market.
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