Reason number 387 why we will never be Top 5 in football again

[msstate7]

Haha, we are gonna get destroyed year-in, year-out

[Matt3467]

I could be wrong but I seem to recall on this board people saying (in different words I'm sure) that free tuition to top schools wasn't enough.

[State82]

Our baseball team should have some great NIL deals with our culture and fan base but we don't need to wait too long and let others get too far ahead of us.

Looks like the Vols may already have a jump but on the flip side NIL should greatly help in negating Vandy's huge advantage. You are right though, we need to get on it relentlessly.

[Ranchdawg]

To me it is truly a very sad day in college football and basketball. The days of showing up for college football games in the fall with a true desire to be a part of the greatest spectacle in all of sports is now lost for most schools. Gone are the players that really wanted to be at the university of their choice, to represent their university and go out give all they had. Now all we have are basically hired goons that don?t give a rats @#$ about us as fans, the university they play for or anything but how much they will get paid and if they can get drafted by the NFL.

For me they can have it! I won?t support it. I won?t truly care what happens on Saturday.

[CadaverDawg]

Yeah unfortunately hoops and football for anyone outside of the blue bloods is already dying. Many just dont realize it yet bc the scores between the have and have nots havent gotten lopsided enough yet. In 5-10 years the college sports we love so much and grew up not missing a minute of, will be long gone. Baseball will follow. It's a shame. I've already gotten to where I don't care as much, and I'm sure there are many more like me. There's a reason that minor league sports have crappy attendance...it will just become more about who can buy the best team. No more playing for the pride of your university or for the passion of the game. Instead it's just a job. It's sad really.

[IMissJack]

Yeah unfortunately hoops and football for anyone outside of the blue bloods is already dying. Many just dont realize it yet bc the scores between the have and have nots havent gotten lopsided enough yet. In 5-10 years the college sports we love so much and grew up not missing a minute of, will be long gone. Baseball will follow. It's a shame. I've already gotten to where I don't care as much, and I'm sure there are many more like me. There's a reason that minor league sports have crappy attendance...it will just become more about who can buy the best team. No more playing for the pride of your university or for the passion of the game. Instead it's just a job. It's sad really.

IMO it will only get fixed when nontraditional football schools with more money than Bama, etc. start putting together super teams and start taking the blue bloods’ candy so to speak. For example, what if Harvard, Yale, Stanford types decided to organize some of those billionaires and top 25 in football started looking like it did back in the 1920’s? I think there would suddenly be a lot of discussion about doing something.

FYI Texas A&M and Texas are going to be able to put together the best NIL packages in the SEC .

[CadaverDawg]

IMO it will only get fixed when nontraditional football schools with more money than Bama, etc. start putting together super teams and start taking the blue bloods? candy so to speak. For example, what if Harvard, Yale, Stanford types decided to organize some of those billionaires and top 25 in football started looking like it did back in the 1920?s? I think there would suddenly be a lot of discussion about doing something.

FYI Texas A&M and Texas are going to be able to put together the best NIL packages in the SEC .

Good point. Who would those teams be? Could this be Vandy's Avenue to the top of college football? Joking...I think.

[Liverpooldawg]

Good point. Who would those teams be? Could this be Vandy's Avenue to the top of college football? Joking...I think.

If Vandy wanted to they could certainly do as well as Stanford. They would have to relax academic standards to do more. If they did that then the sky would be the limit.

[IMissJack]

If Vandy wanted to they could certainly do as well as Stanford. They would have to relax academic standards to do more. If they did that then the sky would be the limit.

They already do relax academic standards. A friend of mine had a daughter that ran cross country in HS and got a visit to Stanford. He said they told them that they will make exceptions for athletics (this was over 10 years ago). She ended up going to a Big X school on full scholly. I also doubt all these Vandy baseball players are 4.0 HS students.

[Jack Lambert]

Good point. Who would those teams be? Could this be Vandy's Avenue to the top of college football? Joking...I think.

Admission would keep that from happening. You can have all the money in the world but you cannot change admission standards for one group of students and not the other. No way schools like Vandy, Duke or those Ivory schools will do it. Most of these kids will not be able to enroll into those schools. This why Vandy sucks at football.

[Ezsoil]

FYI Texas A&M and Texas are going to be able to put together the best NIL packages in the SEC .[/QUOTE]

The culture at Texas will prevent them from ever being a legitimate contender ...A&M is the elephant in the room...they have an AD who ignores the NCAA, a coach who will recruit thugs, and contrary to what Alabama and Texas folks think, A&M has access to more NIL money than either of those. (Yes I know Texas has a bigger endowment but they are old money )

[RezDog7]

Yeah unfortunately hoops and football for anyone outside of the blue bloods is already dying. Many just dont realize it yet bc the scores between the have and have nots havent gotten lopsided enough yet. In 5-10 years the college sports we love so much and grew up not missing a minute of, will be long gone. Baseball will follow. It's a shame. I've already gotten to where I don't care as much, and I'm sure there are many more like me. There's a reason that minor league sports have crappy attendance...it will just become more about who can buy the best team. No more playing for the pride of your university or for the passion of the game. Instead it's just a job. It's sad really.

I used to have season tickets. Stopped in 2016 and just started going to a few games a year. Last year, I think I only watched 2 games from start to finish. I'd rather be hunting.

[Cooterpoot]

I'm still waiting on EA Sports NCAA Football. That's the only positive about NIL and they're dragging their feet on it.

[confucius say]

This is yet another lesson to be careful what you wish for. Everyone wanted the NCAA out, well they are essentially now out.

I'm very curious to see how fan interest plays out over the next 5-10 years. I won't be surprised if the interest in the sport craters and there's very little NIL opportunity left for anybody.

I'm already approaching this point.

[Kylesandi338]

They need to make laws that if a student makes excessive income from NIL or whatever else, they are required to pay for their education, housing, food and everything else that is included in these free ride scholarships. That would free up scholarships for folks that actually need it. If a student transfers out of a school before a certain period of time, they are required to pay back a % of what the school has invested into the player. I have always had the opinion that students on FULL scholarships get way more than they deserve. NIL and transfer portal will continue to ruin college sports except for a hand full of schools.

[parabrave]

They need to make laws that if a student makes excessive income from NIL or whatever else, they are required to pay for their education, housing, food and everything else that is included in these free ride scholarships. That would free up scholarships for folks that actually need it. If a student transfers out of a school before a certain period of time, they are required to pay back a % of what the school has invested into the player. I have always had the opinion that students on FULL scholarships get way more than they deserve. NIL and transfer portal will continue to ruin college sports except for a hand full of schools.

Well all of the "Uncles" who are advising these kids will never allow it/

[Homedawg]

They need to make laws that if a student makes excessive income from NIL or whatever else, they are required to pay for their education, housing, food and everything else that is included in these free ride scholarships. That would free up scholarships for folks that actually need it. If a student transfers out of a school before a certain period of time, they are required to pay back a % of what the school has invested into the player. I have always had the opinion that students on FULL scholarships get way more than they deserve. NIL and transfer portal will continue to ruin college sports except for a hand full of schools.

Just going to touch on a couple of things you said- people have no idea what a "full scholarship" includes these days. This is prior to nil. Meals, room, meals. And I mean meals pretty much whenever you want them. Pell grant check( if applicable) stipend. Academic stipend... it's crazy. Add nil and MOST of the players will go into the real world and take a pay cut. And a major one if they don't make it professionally. .... too add NIL is about to make a whole lot of parents unhappy when they don't get a tax refund Bc their son/ daughter is getting a taxable benefit and they file their child on their taxes and find out not only is the refund gone but they owe taxes. And while they might not owe a lot it's different than getting a refund. Most kids aren't telling the parents they are getting a 1099 for the nil.

[Offshore Dawg]

Looks like the Vols may already have a jump but on the flip side NIL should greatly help in negating Vandy's huge advantage. You are right though, we need to get on it relentlessly.

When someone says this, my question is how will you help ?

[RougeDawg]

Ahhhh. Same old same old in sports as in politics. The haves use the emotion on the have nots to create an even greater divide in the haves and have nots. Same play, different arena. We are here to help the little guy, while the big guys take everyone without a brain to the cleaners. Rinse repeat.

[The Federalist Engineer]

Barry Switzer is announcing his new money laundering scheme, I see.

The Goodfellas better take note, they can also make Rutgers a power. This press release reads like a Goldman Sachs or JP Morgan 10K on how they "make" money.