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    Reason number 387 why we will never be Top 5 in football again

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    Bracky will suspend three players half a season each just to be safe.

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    This sport is just ruined. No team anymore. Just hopping around to who will pay the most. And somehow this wasn't supposed to affect recruiting players!! Ha yeah right!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bdawg View Post
    This sport is just ruined. No team anymore. Just hopping around to who will pay the most. And somehow this wasn't supposed to affect recruiting players!! Ha yeah right!!
    This is yet another lesson to be careful what you wish for. Everyone wanted the NCAA out, well they are essentially now out.

    I'm very curious to see how fan interest plays out over the next 5-10 years. I won't be surprised if the interest in the sport craters and there's very little NIL opportunity left for anybody.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smootness View Post
    This is yet another lesson to be careful what you wish for. Everyone wanted the NCAA out, well they are essentially now out.

    I'm very curious to see how fan interest plays out over the next 5-10 years. I won't be surprised if the interest in the sport craters and there's very little NIL opportunity left for anybody.

    In my opinion it is going to die at most schools. A kid gets into school legitimately through academics and pays $25-$30K at most State schools. Football player at same school has no tuition, free food, tutor, and special everything, plus now $25-$50K in salary (NIL). Unless you are at an elite football power with a legit shot at any run at a natty, why is the first student going to emotionally support the second. I’m not saying that players at these schools have not been given benefits in the past anyway, but I am saying it was ambiguous and somewhat secret. Ignorance was bliss for the masses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smootness View Post
    This is yet another lesson to be careful what you wish for. Everyone wanted the NCAA out, well they are essentially now out.

    I'm very curious to see how fan interest plays out over the next 5-10 years. I won't be surprised if the interest in the sport craters and there's very little NIL opportunity left for anybody.
    Great post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smootness View Post
    This is yet another lesson to be careful what you wish for. Everyone wanted the NCAA out, well they are essentially now out.

    I'm very curious to see how fan interest plays out over the next 5-10 years. I won't be surprised if the interest in the sport craters and there's very little NIL opportunity left for anybody.
    Between the NIL and the transfer portal my interest is beginning to wain in football and basketball. We're essentially done. Our baseball team should have some great NIL deals with our culture and fan base but we don't need to wait too long and let others get too far ahead of us.
    "The QB and the receiver weren't on the same page there, but hey its only week eleven". (Jack Cristil)

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    Quote Originally Posted by smootness View Post
    This is yet another lesson to be careful what you wish for. Everyone wanted the NCAA out, well they are essentially now out.

    I'm very curious to see how fan interest plays out over the next 5-10 years. I won't be surprised if the interest in the sport craters and there's very little NIL opportunity left for anybody.
    I thought most wanted the NCAA reorganized or overhauled because they rarely enforced their own rules and when they did it was total selective enforcement to make sure they didn't hurt any of the sacred cow programs. Not sure anyone wanted all the amateur rules tossed out with the bath water which is essentially what has happened now. Most of us here wanted scholarship reductions to make the sport more competitive. Free transfers and NIL is going to have the exact opposite effect makimg the sport even less competitive than it is right now. And the end result as several have mentioned is that the elite program fans will just get that much more invested while fans of all other schools will just grow more apathetic and season ticket sales will decline. It will be the haves and the have nots at a level we have never seen before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maroonmania View Post
    I thought most wanted the NCAA reorganized or overhauled because they rarely enforced their own rules and when they did it was total selective enforcement to make sure they didn't hurt any of the sacred cow programs. Not sure anyone wanted all the amateur rules tossed out with the bath water which is essentially what has happened now. Most of us here wanted scholarship reductions to make the sport more competitive. Free transfers and NIL is going to have the exact opposite effect makimg the sport even less competitive than it is right now. And the end result as several have mentioned is that the elite program fans will just get that much more invested while fans of all other schools will just grow more apathetic and season ticket sales will decline. It will be the haves and the have nots at a level we have never seen before.
    The importance of compromise is lost on many, in many aspects of life, sadly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maroonmania View Post
    I thought most wanted the NCAA reorganized or overhauled because they rarely enforced their own rules and when they did it was total selective enforcement to make sure they didn't hurt any of the sacred cow programs. Not sure anyone wanted all the amateur rules tossed out with the bath water which is essentially what has happened now. Most of us here wanted scholarship reductions to make the sport more competitive. Free transfers and NIL is going to have the exact opposite effect makimg the sport even less competitive than it is right now. And the end result as several have mentioned is that the elite program fans will just get that much more invested while fans of all other schools will just grow more apathetic and season ticket sales will decline. It will be the haves and the have nots at a level we have never seen before.
    This may be what they're shooting for in order to get the support for the super conference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maroonmania View Post
    I thought most wanted the NCAA reorganized or overhauled because they rarely enforced their own rules and when they did it was total selective enforcement to make sure they didn't hurt any of the sacred cow programs. Not sure anyone wanted all the amateur rules tossed out with the bath water which is essentially what has happened now. Most of us here wanted scholarship reductions to make the sport more competitive. Free transfers and NIL is going to have the exact opposite effect makimg the sport even less competitive than it is right now. And the end result as several have mentioned is that the elite program fans will just get that much more invested while fans of all other schools will just grow more apathetic and season ticket sales will decline. It will be the haves and the have nots at a level we have never seen before.
    I just have one thing to say, well maybe two. Amen


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    Quote Originally Posted by smootness View Post
    This is yet another lesson to be careful what you wish for. Everyone wanted the NCAA out, well they are essentially now out.

    I'm very curious to see how fan interest plays out over the next 5-10 years. I won't be surprised if the interest in the sport craters and there's very little NIL opportunity left for anybody.
    Very possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smootness View Post
    This is yet another lesson to be careful what you wish for. Everyone wanted the NCAA out, well they are essentially now out.

    I'm very curious to see how fan interest plays out over the next 5-10 years. I won't be surprised if the interest in the sport craters and there's very little NIL opportunity left for anybody.
    We are in this mess because of the NCAA and the lack of leadership from the NCAA and the college Presidents. I don't think anyone knows what the hell to do now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smootness View Post
    and there's very little NIL opportunity left for anybody.
    There isn't and never was much nil money. A buddy, his kid plays at a P5. (Not sec) He says 99% of their players have received zero in nil money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maroonthirteen View Post
    There isn't and never was much nil money. A buddy, his kid plays at a P5. (Not sec) He says 99% of their players have received zero in nil money.
    I believe this to be true.

    I read the article and yall are getting so played on this NIL stuff. Aint no damn way Oklahoma is paying every student athlete 40 to 50,000. Barry Switzer is fronting this to gin up steam for their entrance in to the SEC. Its brilliant bc he knows it will demoralize middle of the road conference fan bases and some stupid ass admins.

    And Nick Sabin did the same thing with that whole we have a freshman QB whos already worth a million dollars bullshit.

    He was recruiting and trying to demoralize his rivals all in one sentence and it shows how the Switzer and Sabans are a step ahead publicly without having to even show that its true.

    That kindve money is not out there but your gullibility is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Schultzy View Post
    I believe this to be true.

    I read the article and yall are getting so played on this NIL stuff. Aint no damn way Oklahoma is paying every student athlete 40 to 50,000. Barry Switzer is fronting this to gin up steam for their entrance in to the SEC. Its brilliant bc he knows it will demoralize middle of the road conference fan bases and some stupid ass admins.

    And Nick Sabin did the same thing with that whole we have a freshman QB whos already worth a million dollars bullshit.

    He was recruiting and trying to demoralize his rivals all in one sentence and it shows how the Switzer and Sabans are a step ahead publicly without having to even show that its true.

    That kindve money is not out there but your gullibility is.

    Bullseye. There may be "NIL" money in recruiting. But it isn't as much as been as the gossip reports. These numbers are being thrown out there to get recruits looking and visits. Then, the good old fashion recruiting can begin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schultzy View Post
    I believe this to be true.

    I read the article and yall are getting so played on this NIL stuff. Aint no damn way Oklahoma is paying every student athlete 40 to 50,000. Barry Switzer is fronting this to gin up steam for their entrance in to the SEC. Its brilliant bc he knows it will demoralize middle of the road conference fan bases and some stupid ass admins.

    And Nick Sabin did the same thing with that whole we have a freshman QB whos already worth a million dollars bullshit.

    He was recruiting and trying to demoralize his rivals all in one sentence and it shows how the Switzer and Sabans are a step ahead publicly without having to even show that its true.

    That kindve money is not out there but your gullibility is.
    Something about Barry Switzer makes me want to spray lighter fluid in his eyes.

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    Remember there will always be the sidewalk fans that live and die by what happens to the team they pull for because that team wins most if not all their games. Most of these individuals never set foot in a college classroom, let alone graduated. We all know many of these people and their self-worth is based on winning football games. They will be happy that their chosen favorite team will keep that advantage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Offshore Dawg View Post
    Remember there will always be the sidewalk fans that live and die by what happens to the team they pull for because that team wins most if not all their games. Most of these individuals never set foot in a college classroom, let alone graduated. We all know many of these people and their self-worth is based on winning football games. They will be happy that their chosen favorite team will keep that advantage.
    It's over. Just a matter of time. And it won't be long.

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