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    Deshaun Watson to saints or panthers?

    https://nfltraderumors.co/saints-pan...meet-with-him/

    I'd have to think Watson prefers saints. He has to approve
    Last edited by msstate7; 03-13-2022 at 11:52 AM.

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    Hell no in New Orleans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by parabrave View Post
    Hell no in New Orleans.
    I want em. I like to win

    ETA... he was cleared of all charges

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    I want em. I like to win

    ETA... he was cleared of all charges
    That ain't the problem

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    I just don?t think he is an Elite QB. Great Athlete doesnt necessarily mean great QB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leeshouldveflanked View Post
    I just don?t think he is an Elite QB. Great Athlete doesnt necessarily mean great QB.
    Would you rather have him or crab legs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leeshouldveflanked View Post
    I just don?t think he is an Elite QB. Great Athlete doesnt necessarily mean great QB.
    I think he's outstanding. Despite being 4th in the nfl in 2020 in highest sack %, he was 2nd in nfl in passer rating,1st in yds/att, 4th in lowest int %, 10th in td%, and a great athlete.

    Oh, and he did this without deandre Hopkins
    Last edited by msstate7; 03-13-2022 at 12:36 PM.

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    Aren't the saints in a mess with their cap? I would think it would make more sense to build their team through the drafts and get their cap space fixed. I don't think Watson is a great Qb, and I think crab legs could play decently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trob115 View Post
    Aren't the saints in a mess with their cap? I would think it would make more sense to build their team through the drafts and get their cap space fixed. I don't think Watson is a great Qb, and I think crab legs could play decently.
    They've already went from 80 million over down to 10 with about 5 moves left to clear space while only cutting one guy, roby. Loomis is a salary cap wizard. Restructures and extensions. If the saints made the offer, and it's at the point of meeting with Watson, loomis has the money figured out

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    Deshaun is an upgrade over Winston. If Mickey can make the deal then we need to strike on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leeshouldveflanked View Post
    I just don?t think he is an Elite QB. Great Athlete doesnt necessarily mean great QB.
    if you don't think he is an elite QB, you must not watch the NFL

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    So a team that picks up Watson decides that (1) we will enjoy his services until the outcome of the civil cases or (2) we don’t care about the outcome of the civil cases. Assuming the civil cases will be adjudicated as personal injury and he is found guilty, hard to imagine teams would retain him in the current culture. And remember, the burden of proof is much lower in the civil case. This kind of seeming inconsistency with these situations doesn’t reflect well on pro sports. How many of us in a similar situation would get hired.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EdwardDrayton View Post
    So a team that picks up Watson decides that (1) we will enjoy his services until the outcome of the civil cases or (2) we don’t care about the outcome of the civil cases. Assuming the civil cases will be adjudicated as personal injury and he is found guilty, hard to imagine teams would retain him in the current culture. And remember, the burden of proof is much lower in the civil case. This kind of seeming inconsistency with these situations doesn’t reflect well on pro sports. How many of us in a similar situation would get hired.
    I think now that the criminal charges were dropped and teams are making serious offers, then the commish has privately let interested parties know what he will do. Gotta imagine he laid out a few scenarios and the worst one is something like a 6 game suspension... remember he can no longer be found guilty, only liable (unless new charges are filed of course, but seems unlikely at this point).

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    Quote Originally Posted by vv83 View Post
    I think now that the criminal charges were dropped and teams are making serious offers, then the commish has privately let interested parties know what he will do. Gotta imagine he laid out a few scenarios and the worst one is something like a 6 game suspension... remember he can no longer be found guilty, only liable (unless new charges are filed of course, but seems unlikely at this point).
    Semantically that’s true but his culpability will exist. He simply will recompense with his wallet rather than his incarceration. But that doesn’t change what he did if adjudicated so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLostDawg View Post
    Would you rather have him or crab legs.
    Neither. That roster is a mess. I dont think the circus that comes with Watson will help things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leeshouldveflanked View Post
    Neither. That roster is a mess. I dont think the circus that comes with Watson will help things.
    Roster is a mess? Lol, a top 5 defense, and getting a top 5 wr back this season. Saints dealt with biblical injuries and Covid this season, and they still only missed the playoffs by a tie breaker. That's with Trevor siemian starting 4 games and subbing in for injured starter in 2 more. Hell, Ian book had to start a game. Saints were 5-2 under Winston

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    Quote Originally Posted by vv83 View Post
    if you don't think he is an elite QB, you must not watch the NFL
    I watched it last season. How did he do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leeshouldveflanked View Post
    Neither. That roster is a mess. I dont think the circus that comes with Watson will help things.
    Exactly. But maybe some teams feel they could win a Super Bowl with him before his legal situation gets red hot? So GMs now are Robert Johnson at the crossroads, maybe willing to sell their soul.

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    Quote Originally Posted by somebodyshotmypaw View Post
    I watched it last season. How did he do?
    I can't tell if you're trolling or serious. You know he sat out last year, so what does this even mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Roster is a mess? Lol, a top 5 defense, and getting a top 5 wr back this season. Saints dealt with biblical injuries and Covid this season, and they still only missed the playoffs by a tie breaker. That's with Trevor siemian starting 4 games and subbing in for injured starter in 2 more. Hell, Ian book had to start a game. Saints were 5-2 under Winston
    Top 5 defense yes, top 5 WR tho? Who?

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