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    Quote Originally Posted by 99jc View Post
    Sorry i started this thread....i was asked to go help with Ukrainian immigrants not to fight. It touched me to see the little innocent children suffering but i just can't risk going there with 2 years left to retire.
    You're a good dude for all your service my man! Watching those children(any children) suffer because of the stupidity of others is tragic, they are completely innocent! I can sure understand why you didn't go, though! Thank you for your service!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barkman Turner Overdrive View Post
    Again. What US values are we defending in the Ukraine? There have been dozens of bloody conflicts around the globe that we totally ignored. Why now?
    Don't be glib and pretend to not know our political alliances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barkman Turner Overdrive View Post
    He is literally meaningless, but he is a nuclear power. He is not coming for us.
    Can't even bring yourself to say anything negative?

    Also very glib, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Commercecomet24 View Post
    You're a good dude for all your service my man! Watching those children(any children) suffer because of the stupidity of others is tragic, they are completely innocent! I can sure understand why you didn't go, though! Thank you for your service!
    Seconded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeardoMSU View Post
    Can't even bring yourself to say anything negative?

    Also very glib, lol.
    Here is a list of bloody conflicts since the 1980s. This conflict should be yet another one:

    West Papua War, ~300,000 dead
    –Guatemalan Civil war, ~100,000 dead
    –El Salvadorian Civil war, ~75,000 dead
    –Shining path insurgency in Peru, ~60,000 dead
    –The Iran-Iraq war, ~1,000,000 dead
    –The Ugandan Bush war, ~300,000 dead
    –1982 Lebanon war, ~18,500 dead
    –Second Sudanese Civil war, ~1,750,000 dead
    –Sri Lankan Civil war, ~100,000 dead
    –1983 Kurdish rebellion, ~110,000 dead
    –Marxist revolt in Sri Lanka, ~70,000 dead
    –LRA insurgency in Uganda, ~100,000 dead
    –First Armenian-Azeri war, ~35,000 dead
    –Bougainville conflict, ~17,500 dead
    –Afghan civil war 1989-1992, unknown but in the tens of thousands
    –Kashmir insurgency, ~75,000 dead
    –First Liberian Civil war, ~200,000 dead
    –Rwandan Civil war, ~650,000 dead
    –Croatian war of independence, ~23,000 dead
    –Sierra Leone Civil war, ~60,000 dead
    –Algerian Civil war, ~150,000 dead
    –1991 Iraqi uprising, ~100,000 dead
    –Afghan Civil war 1992-1996, unknown but in the tens of thousands
    –Abkhazian war, ~27,500 dead
    –Tajikistan Civil war, ~50,000 dead
    –Burundi Civil war, ~300,000 dead
    –Second Armenian-Azeri war, ~34,000 dead
    –1994 Yemeni Civil war, ~10,000 dead
    –First Chechen war, ~70,000 dead
    –Nepal Civil war, ~17,800 dead
    –Afghan Civil war 1996-2001, unknown but in the tens of thousands
    –First Congo war, ~500,000 dead
    –Republic of the Congo Civil war, ~20,000 dead
    –Eritrean-Ethiopian war, ~300,000 dead
    –Second Congo war, ~5,500,000 dead
    –Second Liberian Civil war, ~50,000 dead
    –Ituri war, ~63,700 dead
    –Second Chechen war, ~175,000 dead
    –War in Darfur, ~300,000 dead
    –***** Delta war, ~15,000 dead
    –Yemen Civil war, ~377,000 dead
    –Kivu Conflict, unknown but in the hundreds of thousands
    –Mexican drug war, ~375,000 dead
    –Boko Haram insurgency, ~350,000 dead
    –South Sudanese Civil war, ~383,000 dead
    –Second Libyan Civil war, ~15,000 dead
    –Tigray war, ~10,000 dead

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeardoMSU View Post
    Don't be glib and pretend to not know our political alliances.
    Again. You have not demonstrated what dog we have in this hunt. If you are that supportive of the cause, I will pay for your ticket to Kiev.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barkman Turner Overdrive View Post
    Here is a list of bloody conflicts since the 1980s. This conflict should be yet another one:

    West Papua War, ~300,000 dead
    –Guatemalan Civil war, ~100,000 dead
    –El Salvadorian Civil war, ~75,000 dead
    –Shining path insurgency in Peru, ~60,000 dead
    –The Iran-Iraq war, ~1,000,000 dead
    –The Ugandan Bush war, ~300,000 dead
    –1982 Lebanon war, ~18,500 dead
    –Second Sudanese Civil war, ~1,750,000 dead
    –Sri Lankan Civil war, ~100,000 dead
    –1983 Kurdish rebellion, ~110,000 dead
    –Marxist revolt in Sri Lanka, ~70,000 dead
    –LRA insurgency in Uganda, ~100,000 dead
    –First Armenian-Azeri war, ~35,000 dead
    –Bougainville conflict, ~17,500 dead
    –Afghan civil war 1989-1992, unknown but in the tens of thousands
    –Kashmir insurgency, ~75,000 dead
    –First Liberian Civil war, ~200,000 dead
    –Rwandan Civil war, ~650,000 dead
    –Croatian war of independence, ~23,000 dead
    –Sierra Leone Civil war, ~60,000 dead
    –Algerian Civil war, ~150,000 dead
    –1991 Iraqi uprising, ~100,000 dead
    –Afghan Civil war 1992-1996, unknown but in the tens of thousands
    –Abkhazian war, ~27,500 dead
    –Tajikistan Civil war, ~50,000 dead
    –Burundi Civil war, ~300,000 dead
    –Second Armenian-Azeri war, ~34,000 dead
    –1994 Yemeni Civil war, ~10,000 dead
    –First Chechen war, ~70,000 dead
    –Nepal Civil war, ~17,800 dead
    –Afghan Civil war 1996-2001, unknown but in the tens of thousands
    –First Congo war, ~500,000 dead
    –Republic of the Congo Civil war, ~20,000 dead
    –Eritrean-Ethiopian war, ~300,000 dead
    –Second Congo war, ~5,500,000 dead
    –Second Liberian Civil war, ~50,000 dead
    –Ituri war, ~63,700 dead
    –Second Chechen war, ~175,000 dead
    –War in Darfur, ~300,000 dead
    –***** Delta war, ~15,000 dead
    –Yemen Civil war, ~377,000 dead
    –Kivu Conflict, unknown but in the hundreds of thousands
    –Mexican drug war, ~375,000 dead
    –Boko Haram insurgency, ~350,000 dead
    –South Sudanese Civil war, ~383,000 dead
    –Second Libyan Civil war, ~15,000 dead
    –Tigray war, ~10,000 dead
    Lol, ok? I can give you a list that goes back much further, but its still not pertinent to the topic at hand.

    Do you think Putin has done anything wrong? Simple Q.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barkman Turner Overdrive View Post
    Here is a list of bloody conflicts since the 1980s. This conflict should be yet another one:

    West Papua War, ~300,000 dead
    ?Guatemalan Civil war, ~100,000 dead
    ?El Salvadorian Civil war, ~75,000 dead
    ?Shining path insurgency in Peru, ~60,000 dead
    ?The Iran-Iraq war, ~1,000,000 dead
    ?The Ugandan Bush war, ~300,000 dead
    ?1982 Lebanon war, ~18,500 dead
    ?Second Sudanese Civil war, ~1,750,000 dead
    ?Sri Lankan Civil war, ~100,000 dead
    ?1983 Kurdish rebellion, ~110,000 dead
    ?Marxist revolt in Sri Lanka, ~70,000 dead
    ?LRA insurgency in Uganda, ~100,000 dead
    ?First Armenian-Azeri war, ~35,000 dead
    ?Bougainville conflict, ~17,500 dead
    ?Afghan civil war 1989-1992, unknown but in the tens of thousands
    ?Kashmir insurgency, ~75,000 dead
    ?First Liberian Civil war, ~200,000 dead
    ?Rwandan Civil war, ~650,000 dead
    ?Croatian war of independence, ~23,000 dead
    ?Sierra Leone Civil war, ~60,000 dead
    ?Algerian Civil war, ~150,000 dead
    ?1991 Iraqi uprising, ~100,000 dead
    ?Afghan Civil war 1992-1996, unknown but in the tens of thousands
    ?Abkhazian war, ~27,500 dead
    ?Tajikistan Civil war, ~50,000 dead
    ?Burundi Civil war, ~300,000 dead
    ?Second Armenian-Azeri war, ~34,000 dead
    ?1994 Yemeni Civil war, ~10,000 dead
    ?First Chechen war, ~70,000 dead
    ?Nepal Civil war, ~17,800 dead
    ?Afghan Civil war 1996-2001, unknown but in the tens of thousands
    ?First Congo war, ~500,000 dead
    ?Republic of the Congo Civil war, ~20,000 dead
    ?Eritrean-Ethiopian war, ~300,000 dead
    ?Second Congo war, ~5,500,000 dead
    ?Second Liberian Civil war, ~50,000 dead
    ?Ituri war, ~63,700 dead
    ?Second Chechen war, ~175,000 dead
    ?War in Darfur, ~300,000 dead
    ?***** Delta war, ~15,000 dead
    ?Yemen Civil war, ~377,000 dead
    ?Kivu Conflict, unknown but in the hundreds of thousands
    ?Mexican drug war, ~375,000 dead
    ?Boko Haram insurgency, ~350,000 dead
    ?South Sudanese Civil war, ~383,000 dead
    ?Second Libyan Civil war, ~15,000 dead
    ?Tigray war, ~10,000 dead




    Guess the website algorithm didn't like the Ni ger Delta War.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barkman Turner Overdrive View Post
    Again. You have not demonstrated what dog we have in this hunt. If you are that supportive of the cause, I will pay for your ticket to Kiev.
    Say something bad about Putin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeardoMSU View Post
    Lol, ok? I can give you a list that goes back much further, but its still not pertinent to the topic at hand.

    Do you think Putin has done anything wrong? Simple Q.
    WTF? That matters not. What has he done to warrant spilling US blood and treasure?

    Simple Q. What values would we be defending in Ukraine? You have never answered that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeardoMSU View Post
    Say something bad about Putin.
    He is a KGB thug. What values are you defending in the Ukraine?

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    It is obvious that some remain sore at Zelensky for not giving in to the former President?s blackmail demands. Sad, but not surprising.

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    I'm just dumbfounded that there are people that think Zelensky should surrender, or that pretending that we don't have a dog in this fight will work out any better than it did in the 1930s. But you know what they say about history.
    There's someone in my head but its not me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barkman Turner Overdrive View Post
    He is a KGB thug. What values are you defending in the Ukraine?
    Again, as others have pointed out, we're not fighting Russia. But off the top of my head....
    Democracy, an ally, Western safety, potentially NATO, keeping an autocrat from rebuilding the USSR, and having solidarity with all our free world allies that this shit wont be tolerated.

    You keep mentioning "Ukrainian values". Do me a favor and spill it...wtf are you talking about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joebob View Post
    I'm just dumbfounded that there are people that think Zelensky should surrender, or that pretending that we don't have a dog in this fight will work out any better than it did in the 1930s. But you know what they say about history.
    Yep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dolphus Raymond View Post
    It is obvious that some remain sore at Zelensky for not giving in to the former President?s blackmail demands. Sad, but not surprising.
    What about the corruption charges against the current President’s son and Ukraine?

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    BTO, you just answered a question I have been asking myself for two weeks.
    As for what values we are defending, they are the same values we so aptly demonstrated by holding the Nuremberg Trials.
    Last edited by Dolphus Raymond; 03-13-2022 at 06:52 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barkman Turner Overdrive View Post
    What about the corruption charges against the current President’s son and Ukraine?
    What about?!?!**

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeardoMSU View Post
    Democracy, an ally, Western safety, potentially NATO, keeping an autocrat from rebuilding the USSR, and having solidarity with all our free world allies that this shit wont be tolerated.
    Wait? Wasn’t that what we were fighting for in Afghanistan and Iraq? And we saw our resolve there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeardoMSU View Post
    What about?!?!**
    You can look those up yourself.

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